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Christopher,

“If you agree then perhaps your time would be better spent lecturing Hoosier on keeping his mouth shut and not sounding like a complete moron. Although you seem to struggle with that a bit yourself…”

And that is the crux of the issue… you want Hoosier to “keep his mouth shut”… you couldn’t do it through your ideas, so you resort to insults while lecturing Hoosier to “let the grown-ups talk”… All sorts of insight here… It does not surprise me in the least… when what you espouse for others is applied to you, your answer is for them to “keep their mouths shut”, because the more you write the harder it becomes to defend what you say, and it gets more and more desperate…

Something esle to consider Christopher W… you have identified yourself on the internet, foollishlly given your address and phone… it is permanently out there… your kids may very well come to you one day ask - “Dad, was that you that said that to an 18 year old”… Like I said, when our actions are viewed through the eyes of our kids, it crystallizes the right thing to do… you’ll either learn that or be ignorant to it…

[i][b]Here are a couple of oldie but goodies from your greatest hits collection."

“We invaded Iraq to protect this country”, “Reagan ended the cold war”, and my personal favorite, “I will get double digit returns”[/b][/i]

And after trying to get Hoosier to “shut his mouth” through demeaning an 18 year old’s thoughts, this old tired discredited blather is the best attempt you have to “shut my mouth”??? Christopher, all this does is highlight your total lack of understanding of geopolitical realiites, and the cold war…

With regards to a double-digit return, show us how it will NOT be one when all is said and done, and then you have a leg to stand on… until then, just words from a frustrated individual… give us an update on your HML in the ideal market you are in… haven’t seen any posts from you announcing it’s a reality… just words… insulting ones at that… you’ve become known for it, which is why I posted what I did…

“Seriously man you lecturing me on anything is ludicrous.”

I wasn’t “lecturing” you… I was giving you a perspective that you did not consider… how old are you???

“Well maybe you could advise me on how to buy poorly, underestimate, and how to drag a project out much longer than expected. If I ever need advice on those subjects u will be the first person I call.”

Christopher, you pretending you know what you are talking about here is just ridiculous at its core…

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I agree on this Hoosier should be allowed to grow his views and exprss even the ones tha I don’t agree with. ESPECIALLY the ones I don’t agree with. I live in a neighborhood that is very high income. That means that our kids tend to be genetically conservative. That is they are conservative because their parents are conservative. That causes their arguments to be not as well thought out as I would like so I tend to make sure I leave them an out so that they can save face. I don’t want to ever make them think that they were not well served by their parents teaching. I just want them to think it through themselves. I don’t think anybody on this site is dumb. I just want them to think it through. I read good point all the time from my conservative friends on here. I enjoy the mental exercises. I just bothers me that sometimes when PositiveOutlook gets show where he is WRONG and he covers it up instead of saying you are right.

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That would make your kids mindless drones(according to Chris). Kinda funny, my dads very Liberal and a GOGO UNION guy, AND im middle class, and yet im wildly Conservative, yet IM the mindless drone. Go figure.

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No that is my neighbor’s kids. My kids are liberal…my kids can think :biggrin

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give us an update on your HML in the ideal market you are in… haven’t seen any posts from you announcing it’s a reality… just words… insulting ones at that… you’ve become known for it, which is why I posted what I did…

Still working on the business plan if you must know. Unlike you I don’t jump into things blindly and than blather on about what the returns will be when the project eventually gets finished. i prefer to get my ducks in a row. Get real world numbers so that when I get asked questions I have real world numbers not just “you’ll get double digit returns… I think”.

What is more amazing is that you say I have become known for my insulting words but I get PM’s from new members on a regular basis asking for my advice on real estate finance.

My contact information was in my signature line for years. Unlike you I don’t feel the need to hide behind a fake name while spewing out nothing but garbage. And spare us the “I was the victim of identity fraud” excuse.

Christopher, you pretending you know what you are talking about here is just ridiculous at its core…

I am not pretending to know anything. You have admitted that your project went from being an investment to a “hobby” is that because you are rolling in the dough and can sit there watching your property rot while you choose to do other things? Or is it because it is easier to ignore the fact that you are in way over your head if you call it a hobby instead of a job.

And last but not least this…

And after trying to get Hoosier to “shut his mouth” through demeaning an 18 year old’s thoughts, this old tired discredited blather is the best attempt you have to “shut my mouth”??? Christopher, all this does is highlight your total lack of understanding of geopolitical realiites, and the cold war…

I think it more highlights the fact that you live in a world were you just make up your own realities. I find it interesting that you can drone on about how successful your wife is, but we never hear anything about you and how successful you are or your business is… why is that Positive? After all with all of your knowledge of the world of real estate you can’t seem to finish one project but you are a “player” because you can go out and get another property that will sit and collect dust and hopefully one day provide you with “double digit return”, and all your knowledge of “geopolitical realiites, and the cold war…” it would seem that you would have at least something to say to Hoosier about all the great things you have done. But you don’t… why is that?

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You raised a nice little group of Comrades. Wait… are you saying Thomas Jefferson, Ben Franklin, and James Maddison werent thinkers? Hrmm…

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Hoosier,

Your a mindless drone because I have yet to see you type one thought that came directly from you. You can point fingers and call people Marxist yet you don’t say why. All you do is jump on others people thoughts and ideas and say “I agree with that!”. I ask you questions about the Constitution yet you don’t answer. All you do is point fingers. Try to think for yourself Hoosier instead of just picking a side and blindly following. Tell you what I won’t call you a mindless drone anymore. From now on you shall be known as Lemming4Life… because that is what Lemmings do they follow.

And stop making ridiculous comments like “Bush was a socialist”. All it does is undermine what little credibility you have here and make you sound uneducated.

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Ohh and by the way Chris, I hit the bong earlier today, and im relaxed. So im back.

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Lemming

You are so the apity of an uneducated piece of white trash. Your poor parents I feel so sad for them. I feel like I am staring at a young Timothy McVeigh.

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Ohh and by the way Chris, I hit the bong earlier today, and im relaxed. So im back.

And that is supposed to surprise or shock me? Like I said there is a reason you are at “East Bum F**K junior college”.

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Its called sarcasm Chris. Ive said countless times I dont even hit the bong, but I respect the decision too. I thought Liberals were supposed to be open minded anyway? Look at the elitest Liberal who thinks hes better than everybody. WOO.

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This is the leaders of our country. If you find a person that has never somked that stuff then he is not fit to run the country. We should legalize it.

The best thing is no hangover.

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Im not sure if thats an attack on me, but I agree, legalize it.
Fiscally Conservative, Socially Tolerant.

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Bluemoon06,

" I just bothers me that sometimes when PositiveOutlook gets show where he is WRONG and he covers it up instead of saying you are right."

If you prove me wrong, I have no problem saying that… that is, when you prove it… but also realize, that goes both ways…

I think what gets under my liberal friends skin is when we apply what they espouse for others to them… Like I’ve said… there is no such thing as liberal hypocrisy… :rolleyes

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The problem with that Positive is that in your own mind you are never wrong. You will sit there and just twist and twist and twist until the person you are debating with gives up. FDJAKE hammered you so many times in the past and so have I and you just sit there and tell yourself “I’m not wrong” and in your brain your not. You are content to just cut and paste people to death. I guess that is what gets you through the day.

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Christopher,

“You have admitted that your project went from being an investment to a “hobby” is that because you are rolling in the dough and can sit there watching your property rot while you choose to do other things?”

Christopher, when did I EVER say this was a “hobby” to me?.. This is a side-investment for me… I have regular work…

“Or is it because it is easier to ignore the fact that you are in way over your head if you call it a hobby instead of a job.”

Way over my head… lol, Lol, LOL… what a completely incompetant thing to say… :biglaugh :lol

“What is more amazing is that you say I have become known for my insulting words but I get PM’s from new members on a regular basis asking for my advice on real estate finance.”

Like one has anything to do with the other… :bs remember, you spend just about as much time in Random Ramblings as you do in the Finance Forum…

“I think it more highlights the fact that you live in a world were you just make up your own realities. I find it interesting that you can drone on about how successful your wife is, but we never hear anything about you and how successful you are or your business is… why is that Positive?”

I drone on about how successful my wife is??? I bring her up occassionally only in context (a handful of times over a couple of years posting)… Yeah, that’s “droning” on about her… :rolleyes I AM very proud of my wife…

To put your silly assertions to rest, as far as me being “successful”… First, I don’t feel the need to project my successes; I’m not insecure… While I don’t live my life on Christopher W’s definition of success, I have had my share of success and challenges in my life… but unlike you, I’ve had dozens of people working with me, our largest building was about 6500sf… we started in a 1250sf building and over a period of five years and two moves later ended up in a 6500sf facility… In my life as an employee, I was recruited to start up and run a division of a multi-million dollar international company, which ended up being in the BLACK after one year, and being it’s OWN multi-million dollar concern… I know what a six-figure postion is and entails and to have the pressure of people’s livelihood at stake…

Every “job” I’ve had, before being self-employed, without exception, I always excelled and moved forward… over the years, I was recruited (which means you weren’t looking to move but someone heard about you and wanted you) by three seperate companies because of what I could bring to the table…

So, I am not at all impressed by what you THINK you know or any of your assumptions… Nor do I feel the need to bring it up…

“After all with all of your knowledge of the world of real estate”

I have never said I was an expert on real estate, that is your false assertion… It’s called creating a false-narrative, which you are very good at, but takes time and posts to respond to… and you said you went to college, right? Guess it wasn’t Harvard, so Hoosier does not have much to worry about… :biglaugh :lol

"you can’t seem to finish one project but you are a “player” because you can go out and get another property that will sit and collect dust and hopefully one day provide you with “double digit return”

No, Christopher, I am a doer not a talker… I am a “player”, as you put it, because I am in the game… you are sitting on the sidelines watching everyone else, while being in the ideal market of Texas… There are MANY ways to do this business, but the ONLY one you can come up with is an HML… one which, I am sure this time next year you will still be TALKING about doing… But, prove me wrong… post it on REILCUB when you do…

“Still working on the business plan if you must know”

I’ve written MANY business plans over the years… you are pretending to be talking to someone who doesn’t know what a load of bull this is, and those who are reading this who have written one don’t know either… Tell me Christopher, what’s holding you up?.. :biglaugh :lol

Unfortunately for you, your words betray you (more on this as we find out more about your HML)…

"and all your knowledge of “geopolitical realiites, and the cold war…”

Christopher, you have a very limited understanding of history…

"it would seem that you would have at least something to say to Hoosier about all the great things you have done. But you don’t… why is that? "

Like I said, I am not insecure, and up until now, you have not asked about my personal successes…

“The problem with that Positive is that in your own mind you are never wrong. You will sit there and just twist and twist and twist until the person you are debating with gives up. FDJAKE hammered you so many times in the past and so have I and you just sit there and tell yourself “I’m not wrong” and in your brain your not. You are content to just cut and paste people to death. I guess that is what gets you through the day.”

Tell you what Christopher, show everyone here where you have PROVEN me wrong and I will be HAPPY to give that to you since you so desperately need it… otherwise just words… I recognize my humanity, but just because YOU say someone is wrong WITHOUT PROOF or any cohesive logic, doesn’t make it so…

As far as “cutting and pasting people to death”… all that is is backing up my position, which as we’ve seen in this thread alone puts you at a disadvantage, just like history does… you have to IGNORE these things to bring your reality full-circle…

BTW, the only time the word “wrong” comes out of your mouth Chrstopher is when talking about other people… just check the search bar… so that is like the pot calling the kettle black…

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So, I am not at all impressed by what you THINK you know or any of your assumptions… Nor do I feel the need to bring it up…

But you feel the need to talk about your wife instead…hmmm something does not add up there.

Way over my head… lol, Lol, LOL… what a completely incompetant thing to say

I think its your words not mine. Why else would you still be rehabbing a property for over a year? Please do tell…

You can keep dodging the fact that you really don’t know much about any anything. You make up your own versions of reality which helps you get through the day. You can question me and my ability to be successful. Since you don’t measure yourself on my scale why do you keep asking me about my HML plans? Why do you keep asking me to prove that I know what I am talking about and about my successes yet nothing seems to ever come from you.

Its always blah blah blah and lots of smiley faces but thats it. It just kills you that you have been exposed as a fraud and you will do or say anything to try and put it off on other people.

In my life as an employee, I was recruited to start up and run a division of a multi-million dollar international company, which ended up being in the BLACK after one year, and being it’s OWN multi-million dollar concern… I know what a six-figure postion is and entails and to have the pressure of people’s livelihood at stake…

As you like to say Positive just words… funny you gave all of that up to be a failed rehabber. More power to you man. You are living the american dream. :rolleyes

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and while I am at it.

Christopher, you have a very limited understanding of history…

Positive it has become very clear that you just make things up as you go along and then convince yourself that they are true. So it is not my limited understanding of history it is the fact that you are unwilling to accept the fact that the way you perceive things in your life is not how they truly are.

No, Christopher, I am a doer not a talker… I am a “player”, as you put it, because I am in the game…

What exactly is it that you are doing?? Buying properties that you have no intention of ever completing? Thats like me saying I am going to take an application on every person I ever speak to and that makes me a heavy hitter because I have a 10M pipeline even though I have no intention of closing 99% of the loans. I think that is where you are creating fact from fiction. But you are good at that it seems. Mr. “double digit returns”. I will tell you what you are doing… wasting a whole lot of time that could be spend “doing” something to get your properties rehabbed. You have spent a total of 7 days, 14 hours and 11 minutes posting on here instead of “doing” something that could help your family. What an incredible waste.

You say I have a limited understanding of history…Let me counter that by saying you have a limited understanding of economics…

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What I never heard him trying to sell his wife on here? I think I don’t read enough of his posts to get to that part. What does she look like?