Ohh jeez... PostiveOutlook booted?

Random Ramblings
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Positive was a NEGATIVE force here.....

THAT is why he got the boot…and RIGHTLY so!!!

RIDICULOUS! I think FurnishedOwner is a negative force here. She’s a blatant socialist and has been drinking the Obama Global Warming koolaid which has now been totally debunked as a fake by the words of the Global Warming “scientists” themselves; not to mention that God deciding to put the deep freeze on the world just to show how arrogant man is. I think she should be booted for spreading her socialist propaganda!

You, FDJake, were already booted for blatant violations of the forum rules (all the nasty personal attacks) and you and Rookie continue with that b.s., but ironically, I was one of the moderators that argued to allow you to come back. Rookie has constantly complained to me that YOU are spreading b.s. and that your advice is dangerous. He thought YOU should be banned. Now that you and Rookie are best buddies, I guess everything is right with the world. Give me a break!

My point is that it is totally bogus that PO was booted. He hasn’t done 1/10 of the negative stuff you and Rookie have done and yet you haven’t been booted. Furthermore, PO was not drinking my “Koolaid”. He agreed with me on some subjects and disagreed on others. I warned him about infractions occassionally and modified some of his posts exactly as I have done with yours.

How about Hoosier? He’s not in the real estate business. He’s just a kid. Under your theory, he’s not entitled to an opinion. Maybe he should be booted.

How about REIER? I don’t know anything about this guy. Is he enough of a businessman that he’s entitled to an opinion? Let’s boot him too.

People should be booted for infractions of the rules, not because they aren’t in the real estate business or because someone doesn’t like their opinions!

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Yea and Hoosier didn’t TELL US he was a PRO CONTRACTOR working a FLIP he bought 2 years ago that is STILL UNFINISHED MIKE…Little bit of a difference there.

Furnished IS a real estate INVESTOR…and a sucessful one…I could care less if he/she supported STALIN. She knows how to run a sucessful REAL ESTATE BUSINESS!!! That’s why I’M HERE MIKE…Not to read about GLOBAL WARMING!!

I don’t even care about YOUR POLITICS…But I know if I ever need advice on RESIDENTIALS RENTALS you’re at the top of my list…What the hell would I have ever asked Positive for??? How to take 2= years rehabbing an 800 sq ft cottage??? My 10 year old son could have knocked that project out faster!

I fully understand Rookie asking that I be BANNED (again) Like ME…He goes for the throat. (which I actually admire) My guess is Rookie was worried that someone here would dump their LIFE SAVINGS into Ford stock. Well…We all know how that would have turned out!!! Let’s just say ROOKIE would now have some company in the 7 figure club! (Ahh Yes, even the MASTER can LEARN) Just kidding…The guys a money manager…Of coarse he thought my strategy was RISKY…IT WAS!!! And he was right saying it could be dangerous.
A GUN is dangerous too…But in the right hands it’s also a TOOL. I HIGHLY doubt ANY of the REAL ESTATE investing advice EVER given by me was deemed DANGEROUS by anyone.

AGAIN…I have a TON of respect for you Mike and I honestly appreciate you going to bat for me here…I ALSO respect your opinion on Positive…BUT…Even YOU can not dispute the FACTS…This guy’s REHAB story had more holes in it than the house he purchased. FACT!!

But in the end MIKE…Here’s your BOTTOM LINE…

Rookie and I are STILL here for ONE REASON…

WE HAVE MADE PEOPLE…M O N E Y!!! REAL MONEY…with our advice, our EXPERIENCE and our WILLINGNESS TO SHARE IT!!! Whether it was ME with FORD STOCK (thanks by the way, for all the THANK YOU’s) Kitchen cabinet rehab options (lakeside moulding) Real Estate Options, How to SELL your finished flips, CAR ADVICE (why in earth did I go there), how to BUILD your business. Or Rookie with Hard money lending, rentals, stock/option trading. ect.

WE actually BRING value to this site…As do YOU. Positive brought NOTHING here…As witnessed by the NUMEROUS members here so happy to see him GONE!!

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Mike

Positive was a bully pure and simple. All he would do is sit and harass people that did not agree with his opinion, hijack threads with his inane cut and paste skills, and then try and hide behind the “I’m not breaking any rules so u can’t touch me crap”. He was driving other people away from this website and once that starts happening where do you draw the line? Are we supposed to just continue to let someone who brings nothing “positive” to this website continue to just run amuck? We have all at one point or another argued with somebody in one of these forums but PO picked fights with everyone.

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Yea…and I got you BOTH beat with my BRILLANT QQQQ short play… :flush

Let’s back up a little here…

Mike will ALWAYS be a asset to this place. He’s one smart MO FO and he’s OPINIONATED…LIKE YOU!

ROOKIE…Take a breath…The best part of all this is…

The 3 of us…You, Me, Mike…We’re all the SAME…No BS… NO “I’M RIGHT” FU… let’s step outside HARD HEADS!!

Mikes a GUN GUY…Rookie favors black GAS PIPE, and I’ve always loved a nice kidney shot followed by a right cross.

I wonder if our BUSINESS EXPERIENCES have anything to do with this???

R E L A X…We’re all here to HELP each other.

Hey…I just noticed someting…Rookie and I just showed up to a GUN FIGHT with gas pipe and BARE HANDS…

Mike…You WIN!!!

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Fdjake,
Mike is disrespecting me and like his lackey friend that was booted I dont take being disrespected by subordinates very well…Im self made…I help others…I was raised on the lower east side of NYC in Alphabet city…You think I take that stuff from anyone…I dont …The world I come from you give respect you get respect in return…I always showed Mike respect until he started wandering into foreign waters…He is a GREAT landlord,keep your opinions in your area of expertise…Anything else out of his mouth is ranting…

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I’m glad he’s gone. I can start visiting the forums more frequently now.

If FDJake, RookieNYC, FO, etc. left because PO was not booted, this forum would suffer. Conversely, if PM left because PO was booted, I believe the forum would suffer.

I think the thought that posters are going to suddenly be arbitrarily removed is a little over the top…

I do enjoy and appreciate the vast majority of the posters on this site and consider it an important tool in the sucess of my RE buisness.
:beer

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Yea…and if we were all in a bar together having a few cold ones we’d all have tears coming down our cheeks from the stories we’d be laughing about…

You got more in common with Mike than you don’t…It’s obvious we’re all cut from the same cloth.

We’re all guilty of the lack of respect thing here from time to time.

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Mike is disrespecting me and like his lackey friend that was booted I dont take being disrespected by subordinates very well

I am not your subordinate. Who do you think you are?

He is a GREAT landlord,keep your opinions in your area of expertise..Anything else out of his mouth is ranting..

I will express my opinion on any subject I feel appropriate. Furthermore, my opinion is just as valid as yours and I firmly believe that I will be 100% correct about the coming collapse of the economy, just as I was about the real estate bust long before that happened. When that happens, I will expect an apology.

From now on, I will be acting more like a moderator (as I should have been all along). If there are personal attacks, the offending post will be deleted.

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I’ll be the first to admit you were right Mike…

BUT…If “I” am right and we DO NOT have a “COLLAPSE” I will expect the same in return…

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and of course I will be happy to admit that you are right if that turns out to be the case. The point is that we both have the right to express our opinion and the facts will determine the outcome, even though neither of us are economists. Furthermore, we don’t need to throw personal attacks at each other just because we don’t buy into the other party’s opinion.

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Mike,
Seriously lets move past this…I didnt mean my subordinate comment to you…If you took it that I way I apologize…I have always posted how much I respect you and even though you made me annoyed I still do…I dont want to go back and fourth with you anymore…I dont know what else to say…

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I guess the only way to make all this better is to allow PO back. LMFAO

(Ducks for cover)

JK… (sorta)

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You’re right Mike. What’s the difference anyway…

The only thing that matters is preparing for the future regardless of what the future is…You’ve done that already… and if you’re right, you’ll be OK…and if I am right…

You’re STILL OK.

So really…What the hell are we arguing about??? :beer

Hoosier,

I’d rather see your Obama/Pelosi video on a 24 hour loop here than see The “Pro-Rehabber” back.

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I want to make money.

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How about REIER? I don't know anything about this guy. Is he enough of a businessman that he's entitled to an opinion? Let's boot him too.

Mike,

If that’s what the mod’s decided, then I would be fine with that. I am a guest here not the owner. I don’t make the rules or decisions here, I just read and post when ever I’ve got something to contribute.

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Also, I’ve mentioned this in some of my other posts, I’ve owned multifamily rentals in the past and sold them off a couple years ago because I’m not a good babysitter and started questioning the good in humans. Only own one two family unit and only because it was a great purchase when I first started, with stable values and in a great area that is growing consistantly.

Now I’m always looking to flip homes to landloards that love taking abuse and investors that want to rehab. I’ll also take any advice on making money any way that works and is legal.

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I don’t why you guys waste your time arguing on an internet forum. Is it that fun? I got attacked by PO a few times. I just didn’t respond, and from then on I just scrolled right past his posts, didn’t even have to look at the screen name, the format always gave it away was. There are more than a few others that annoy me, but so what. It’s an internet forum.

Don’t get me wrong though, I love these forums and learn a lot from you guys, both Mike and Pete. Heck I built a rental business around mikes business plan, and it is working so far three years later. And now Pete has me thinking about selling a few of these and flipping REO’s with cash…I feel fairly confident that I can do this with the experience I have gained here and in real life following mikes plan. I shutter to think about where I would be otherwise. My local REI club is a joke!

So thanks guys, and please come back and keep contributing.

:beer

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Whooaa…
Did propertymanager REALLY say that I was a negative force, spreading socialist propaganda?! That FO (moi) should be booted? But keep PO, as he is conservative?!

What the heck, that actually makes me feel good, I must have bested Mike in a couple of on-line debates, to make him that mad.

Mighta won that global-warmin’ argument thingey, don’ cha think? (Yep, I was just watching Sarah Palin’s tea party speech).

Hey, it’s the diversity and breadth of the posters here that makes this all work. It’s the 18 year-old-kid with a mouth on him, from the MidWest, Hoosier, on one end of the spectrum. To the Eastern big-money guys, one example being rookieNYC on the other. To the entrepreneur role models like FDjake. And like you, propertymanager, who earned your credentials in the trenches of low income rentals.

It’s the real estate guys in California, still trying to make money in that market. The Arizona investors, the Florida flippers. It’s me, the lonely ONLY furnished rental home landlord, from my dusty corner of the desert.

By logging onto this site we have a live day-to-day synopsis of what is going on in real estate, the financial situation and politics. Coast to coast. Hour to hour.

If we were all alike, say all equally conservative and to the right of Genghis Khan, like Mike, than wouldn’t this site be boring? Be like attending a tea party where everyone already has the same viewpoint? Might as well just stay home. Might as well not log on.

Furnishedowner

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FO,
I agree…Even though I know we are in the now infamous Random Ramblings section I could care less what political affiliation you align yourself with…Nor do I care if you believe or not in global warming…And to add to that it wouldnt change my willingness to help you achieve your goals if I could…And my political views are pretty far right of yours to say the least…But like I said Im here to help you anytime and I hope that you know that…That is what this SITE is all about…Everyone here is green to me…Meaning a way to learn to make money…I am going to try to keep my posting even keeled to the best of my ability…I wont lie because when I was going into the cashflow/landlording business Mike/propertymanager helped me alot…But we have banged heads quite a bit over PO/wpear…It is what it is but I dont agree with any extreme form of political views…From either side…And I think that politics,religion and sex should not be part of this forum in any section but its not my site…So I sit back and duke it out from time to time…Just think how many fights wouldnt have happend here if those topics were forbidden to be spoken about???

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Did propertymanager REALLY say that I was a negative force, spreading socialist propaganda?! That FO (moi) should be booted? But keep PO, as he is conservative?!

Not exactly. In fact, I totally agree with you on this issue that every voice is important. Whether it’s a kid from Indiana or PO who has not completed a project in 2 years. To ban someone who didn’t violate the forum rules because a few people didn’t like him (for whatever reason) takes away from the entire site.

P.S. The planet is turned into a giant icebox with 30 inches of snow in the capital (a new record as I understand it). Furthermore, the disgraced scientist who helped perpetrate this scam is so ashamed of himself that he has considered committing suicide (although I think jail would be a more fitting end for him). FO - I hate to tell you but you LOST BIG TIME on the global warming scam. Maybe you lefties could resurrect the next ice age theme from the 70’s. LOL!