“Deal Maker”
http://www.realestateinvestorbookpromo.com/#
Keith
To Lamar - WOW you certainly have a lot of time on your hands.
STOP DRINKING THE COOL AID MY FRIEND.
Your rambling posts make my eyes bleed. Now either you are a star-struck newbie infatuated with Mark Evans OR (and more likely) you ARE mark evans or one of his friends posting an answer to my facts.
Just FYI - in case anyone is wondering about my sources. The information was gathered using same private research sources used by law enforcement. These info sources are not free and are not available to the public. I’ve been using these same services to track down the owners of vacant abandoned homes for the last 10 years and I will tell you - the information is extremely accurate.
If I’m wrong - lets have Mark Evans come on and whip open the Kimono with the truth. Let him answer each point. The internet is full of people like him. They go to a seminar - wake up the next day with a messiah complex and “proclaim” themselves gurus and start selling some rehashed real estate course.
holy “Jim Jones” batman…
Stop drinking the cool aid Lamar.
Ok so I read a very Negative Post which is your third one - 1 of only 3 and your e-mail address is hidden.
“May I be so kind as to ask why this is Sir or Madam”
not to add fuel to the fire here but i will chime in.
i did purchase mark evans book after it was recommended by paul straus from the richdad boards. i’m glad the money went to charity (i hope it really did).
do i think it’s a “must have book”? - no
it’s a good story book with some good helpful hints. it’s definitely not a book i would give to newbies as a base looking to get into REI.
moving along i do have to add my input on two points you’ve made Lamar.
“The book was also a #1 Bestseller on Amazon” - ok “technically” it was. but did you look at that screenshot closely? that page is updated every half hour. i’m not sure how the ordering process with amazon works, but could it be possible that they submitted all their orders at once to obtain #1 status for that short duration? i think this advertising was a bit misleading.
“Farm emails?? I doubt that… lol However, If you go to someone’s website and subscribe then you will surely recieve something from them via email” -i believe my email was taken from this site as well. i never signed up for his email list. one day i received some emails from him. that’s actually how i found out about mark evans.
i’m not blasting mark evans here. i felt those two issues should be made clear.
As always everyone has a right to their opinion however I had to chime in hopefully one last time.
I mentioned it was a #1 Best Seller because that is exactly what is was for a duration of days, not minutes. I got the book when it first came out and it was in the #1 spot for a while. On top of that, in order to be a #1 seller I’m certain you’d have to have a significant amount of sells, regardless of the timeframe. It’s called #1 Best Seller, not #1 Best Seller in a given time period. There are hundreds of best sellers all over the internet. It goes by sells not time. However More time can equal more sells!
Also, if you say you went through Paul to get the book, once you purchased the book, you were on Mark’s list. You subscribed to get the book, right? Now if you got emails before then and you never went to any of his sites, then I can’t speak on that. I just have a pretty good idea of how he operates and when he taught us to build our list, he never mentioned “farming emails” and if he did teach that, he would not be my Mentor!
Hope that helps.
Every body has their own opinion on the book. I though it was awesome, but I agree it shouldn’t be a sole base for new investors to get into rei. However, it brings value to the table!
-Lamar
to clarify. i received emails before purchasing the book. it was after paul was advertising that i decided to give it a “go”.
that aside. if mark evans is running an honest business and his students are doing deals i wish him (and them) the best of luck.
I am not trying to put more fire in this… But it seems that at least in your case, Paul’s strategy worked… he sent you an unsolicited email and you ended up buying his product… :O)
I am curious though if knowing what you know now, would you have bought the book?
Thank you. Have a nice evening!
It wasn’t Paul’s product, it was Marks. If I understand it correctly, ryanpal was on Paul’s list and Paul is the one who advertised Mark’s book to ryanpal.
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to clarify. i received emails before purchasing the book. it was after paul was advertising that i decided to give it a “go”.
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Ryanpal, if this happens again, then I suggest you scroll down to the bottom of the email and unsubscribe yourself and if it still continues after that, then make a complaint to Mark’s Helpdesk. I can’t vouch for him, but I know he isn’t the only one working his biz.
good morning fellas.
i shouldn’t say that Paul advertised to me. he had the book link advertised in his signature over on the richdad boards. he posts alot over there and i decided it was for a good cause so i decided to put out the $16 or whatever it was at the time.
the email i received wasn’t from paul, but from mark evans company. my guess is it was obtained from this or another rei forum that i’m a member of
j1dias,
i’m not upset that i bought the book. would i still buy it knowing what i know now? no i wouldn’t. i can read plenty of “stories” online for free.
all right hahahah i found this funny. mark is my cousin, so i can clear any questions about this right up.
for one: beverly evans is my aunt, married to jim evans my uncle. that would make them both marks aunt and uncle. they do live at 51 community dr. i am at 71 community dr right now.
i saw mark on saturday for his sisters baby shower. he is currently driving an $80,000 mercedes g-wagon. he also recently bought a house and his neighbor is deangelo hall.
hes no joke. i lived with him for 32 days while he had his $11,500 condo in times square. you can see pictures of me with him at www.deenaandmark.com
just go to the second link that says new york, new york
oh and the olentangy rd address is a ups po box
and sandy is his mothers name, not beverly (thats his aunt)
i think you need to find a new way of investigating people…
David,
Please re-read the Forum Rules, to wit Rule #1:
**No Profanity or Name Calling - if you disagree, that’s fine, but do so in a professional manner. This includes private messages and emails.
Don’t make me break out the “Scooter”
Keith
Moderator
Whats a Scooter Keith :huh
I have no clue how I missed this one, but I have to respond. lol
First of all topgun, I’m no star struck newbie. Now I won’t proclaim to be a guru or even a real estate expert, but I do have experience in Real Estate Investing & Internet Marketing. With that said, I really have no reason to pump my resume to you.
Also, I am in no way shape or form, “infatuated” with Mark Evans. I don’t roll like that. However, I do admire his ability to reach out and help others become successful and to teach them to do the same.
I’m one of Mark Evan’s students, have been for 2 years, and I’m speaking from experience. I seriously doubt Mark Evans would even waste his time and come on here to clarify anything and even if he did, it still wouldn’t make a difference. People will be skeptical one way or another. The fact is that those aren’t the people he is looking to help.
I presented a lot of information to prove a point and still it won’t stick through to some people. People will have a different perception on something, no matter what it is. Example: I see the cup half full, you see the cup half empty.
I’m sure I’m wasting my time responding now, but I couldn’t help it. The bottom line is that your investigating sources may be accurate, but it was waaaaay off in this case. Sorry to tell you, but everything you said just seems to spawn from whatever pain you dealt with or are dealing with on subjects you don’t seem to fully understand. (I’m referring more to Internet Marketing, not real estate) Also, I’d like you to show me a course like Mark Evans wrote. As I have read many courses and haven’t seen anything like it yet.
But whatever man, It’s really not that serious! I mean, even his cousin came on! What more do you want.
If you’re doing investigations like this, then I’m afraid of Law Enforcement in your area.
Just kick back, relax, and join me for some nice RED Kool AID :beer
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When someone intentionally misbehaves after they have been asked to stop, they get called “Scooter”…it’s like a term of endearment, only different (see “Ron White” video at the 1:45 point) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJDr294Z00o
Im just dropping in here, but is this the guy I see marketed on craigslist
all the time? Starts off with one guys name, John/Justin Blunt standing on
the beach or something and when you enter your info you get an email from
another guy entirely, I think the Mark guy mentioned here.
Of course I couldnt find a link when I needed one, but just wondering.
I think you mean jeremy blunt.
He is also one of mark’s students and posts on craigslist all the time. The reason you saw Mark was probably because when you subscribed to Jeremy’s site, you were given a free course. This is Mark’s sub 2 course. It’s a really good course. I send it to investors who join my site too.
Information Marketing at it’s best!
OK I went to the site and checked out the picture you mention. You look rather young? Is this REALLY a picture of you? According to my sources - YOU are 53 years old.
DAVID T EVANS
DAVID TIMOTHY EVANS
DAVID EVANS
Gender - Male
6/15/1955
(Age: 53)
5776 ALLENBY CT APT B
GALLOWAY OH 43119-9261
Jul 91 - Mar 2008 614-465-2822 - EDT - Active
Administrative Contact:
Evans, David Devans90@gmail.com
5776 Allenby Ct.
Galloway, Ohio 43119
United States
(614) 922-9077
Save your money! It’s just a fancy name with a high price tag on how to do lease options. Also save your money if you are considering going to “The Ultimate Real Estate Lifesyle Experience”
presented by Mark Evans and Ed Zimdardi. It is a pitch for a $25,000 mentoring program. Its’ your average bait and switch. It was advertised as a three day event to help you get your real estate business up and running. However the end result was: if you pay us $25,000 we will help you.
On a positive note by visiting the homes of Mark Evans and Ed Zimbardi it did give you a visual about what is possible when you apply yourself.
So basically you’re saying that we should steer clear of people that are Succesful?? :bs
I bought Mark’s reverse course and I made double my investment back. Did I think it had a high price tag? Sure it did! But did I see the true value and the true potential of the product to not only make my investment back, but to keep implementing what I learned and do it over and over again. You figure if it cost $900 bucks and I doubled that on my first deal…$1800 bucks, then I kept implementing and doing it over and over, $1800, $2500, $3500, 1750, etc… I think the course pays for itself BIG TIME!.
You see my point.
Its not always about the price tag. Its about the value and about your ability to expose that value and take it to its highest potential.
I’m not a salesman for Mark Evans, but I call it how I see it. Whether you pay $25,000, $2500, $250, or $25, the real question is in the Value of the program, not the price tag.
Then the question is how will you leverage that value and make back your investment.
I’ll admit $25,000 is a pretty hefty price to pay. But the true question is how much is it worth for you to change your life.
How much do you personally think you should have to spend?
Do You Trust the person who is training you?
Are they making more money than you and are they successful with their business?
Can You Truly acheive the same results If You paid less?
If so, How fast can you achieve those results?
If you pay something like $25K, can you double that with the knowledge you have gained or should I say will gain?
William You said something really Key. “Apply Yourself”
You’re absolutely right about that. Thats what alot of investors don’t do. Or they do it a little bit.
You evaluate the program or the product, you decide if its worth your time, effort and investment, if so, then you “Apply Yourself”.
You didn’t mention that the course also includes weekly mentoring for a year. (or it least is was that long when I got it) Each week you come together and ask questions about the course, if you didn’t understand something, if you have questions, concerns, and you also get to ask questions about current deals you are working on. Not only that the course focuses on the most important part of your business…Marketing!
Not too many mentors will support their product like that.
I like to present the Facts! Anyone reading this may be a bit skeptical and they’ll have to make an informed decision on their own. I’m just keeping it real.
Are People Insane if they pay $25K for training?
Maybe?
Maybe Not…
It all depends on that individual. If they come in and make nothing, because they didn’t do anything, then they are Absolutely Insane.
But if they did everyting that was required and then some and made $50K, then that was the smarest investment ever!
Think about all the testimonials you see all over the internet. Those testimonials are from people that made it happen! I use to think they were fake. lol Then I stopped hating on people and started doing what I needed to do and I became a tesimonial! Some people will be successful at the biz and some won’t. The question people need to ask is, “What Side of the Fence will I be on?”
To me, Massive Action+ Specialized Knowledge+ Massive Value= True Success
Take it for what its worth.
what if they “did everything that was required and then some and made” $0? what would it be? :biggrin