“Any President attacking the giant financial mess was bound to get skewered by the opposition. Would you rather have G.W. Bush in office right now? Trying to think his way through the complex mess–wouldn’t that be a scary thought?”
Considering Bush didn’t veto spending, and he went along with the Dem’s on TARP, who know’s what would have happened… however, we would have been spared “stimulus” and Omnibus (which he did threaten to veto because Dem’s wanted to spend too much, which Obama passed), and the 3.5 TRILLION sham of a budget… So who really knows…
“Franklin D. Roosevelt comes to mind as another president who attempted a huge amount of change. He really was hated by the rich. He was in as huge a mess as this president, or even worse with staggering numbers of unemployed, and banks closing their doors. But he got us out of it.”
HE did not get us out of it… the country did… and it’s been argued for a long time that what he did PROLONGED the misery…
“I’m surprised by the pure hate and vehemence against President Obama after these few months.”
I don’t hate Obama… I don’t even know the man, but I absolutely can’t stand his policies…
“Why not give him a chance and a little time.”
Because what he wants to implement, IMHO, will cause more misery for millions of people…
“He is as qualified an individual to lead this country as any before him.”
BASED ON WHAT??? That is an insult to great presidents before him… He needed Hillary Clinton to hold his hand and tell him what to do on Iran… While not a fan of Hillary, she was much more qualified than Obama…
“I have a great deal of trust in his ability to lead us out of this morass.”
Again, BASED ON WHAT??? Be specific…
“For those who discount global warming as “made up”, you have got to refer to the scientific consensus on that.”
The problem you now have Furnishedowner, is that there is currently MORE TOP scientists in the world (if you’d like a list of the TOP ones I can provide it to you) who are DIRECTLY disputing anthrpogenic global warming (i.e. - man-made), as well as, sea level theories, etc… Have YOU considered their opinions and done research on both sides of this issue? They are trying to enact FAR-REACHING taxation that will affect EVERYTHING bought and sold… How does MONEY remove ANY carbon from the atmoshphere?
“The consensus was: YES, GLOBAL WARMING EXISTS, IT IS INCREASED BY MAN’S ACTIVITIES, IT IS HAPPENING MUCH FASTER THAN EXPECTED, IT IS DARN SCARY, WE CAN’T PREDICT HOW FAST OR FAR IT WILL GO, BUT IT IS WARMING. A LOT. The global scientific consensus is in on global warming. Believe it.”
Something to ponder regarding the ultimate lunacy of this… Back in 1900, there were approximately 1.6 BILLION people on earth, and now we have 6.77 BILLION. This does not include all the INCREASED vegetation and animal life that we consume annually (as well as the vast life-forms we do not), which ALL produce CO2… The levels for CO2 from all natural and industrial sources as measured TODAY, will one day have the output matched by the living organisms of the world ALONE… We’ve increased four-fold in 100 years, and that number will grow substantially over the next 100 years… what do you plan on doing then, killing people, animals, etc. off???
“Sure you can even today get people who profess that the earth is flat.”
Who is proposing this…
“You can get some scientists and many other nay-sayers who don’t want to believe the facts about global warming.”
Some scientists??? This shows you are not looking at both sides of this issue… not only are there more than “some scientists”, there are many TOP SCIENTISTS who are directly challenging AGW… These numbers have increased DRAMATICALLY over the past few years… But the reporting on their opposition is NOT given consideration, so people are misled…
“International governmental conferences are not set up and funded because of 1 or 2 or 10 scientists’ opinions.”
I want to get an understanding of how much you know on this subject… How many scientist do you think made up the IPCC??
“The subject is too complex. Many, many international scientists have weighed in. So many that governments around the world are reacting, and changing their policies in response to the global warming threat.”
This should be the first clue for you… all you have to do is follow the money… They see this as a HUGE cash-cow… Think about it… they put in place a tax on all energy consumption, and this hits EVERYTHING… see what the increase in gas did just last year to everything… now, add to it all other energy, and are you starting to get the picture??? They get more and more taxes on EVERYTHING… and guess who gets to pay??? That’s right… EVERYONE, INCLUDING those who were “promised” they would not see ANY tax increase under and Obama administration…
“It is real. It is just plain stupid to deny the international consensus.”
How can you call it “plain stupid” when it’s obvious you are only reading one side of this issue??? Do you even realize that they did not even READ THIS LEGISLATION AGAIN, which is what they are PAID to do??? Is this any kind of leadership? Don’t even question what’s involved??? When it was in committee, Senior Dem’s said Cap and Tax(Trade), was not only a TAX, but a BIG ONE… and they lamented that the people are NOT being told about the details on this… and then in the House, they vote on it WITHOUT even READING IT???
Just think if this was 20-30 years ago, and we were stuck with the major networks reporting only on this…