The Dam Busts Loose with Climategate...

As we witness the unfolding ramifications of Climategate, does it make any of you who still believe in MAN-MADE global warming skeptical of what you were sold under the guise of “science”? Does it even cause you to question it?

What I find interesting, and more specifically nefarious, about this whole issue, is the “solutions” put forth. Basically it all comes down to CONTROL and MONEY.

CONTROL

They want to tell you what car to drive, how big a house to have, how high or low to set your thermostat (updating the new grids to have your thermostats under the control of the electric company, like water), how many kids to have, etc., etc., etc… I mean this list goes on and on, and it is ALL about someone in government DICTATING and having CONTROL over all aspects of your life…

The EPA, who are NOT subject to the voters/citizens, wants to call CO2 a “pollutant”… This will ALLOW them to put into place CONTROLS over EVERY facet of your life, as CO2 touches every facet of your life.

Why would you want to SUBMIT yourself to such conditions of control based on an UNTESTED theory? Did you get that, UNTESTED, that’s right, a key part of science is REPRODUCIBLE results based on your theory and underlying Data… they have NOT done this yet, but Al Gore continues to say the “science is settled” (he said that going back to 1992 BTW). It was WARMER in the Medieval Warming Period than it was now and the world didn’t end, but in direct contrast PROSPERED… THINK about that… it was WARMER and we PROSPERED? Not something you hear much about is it?.. WHY?

MONEY

As usual, the answer according to governments who promote this is MONEY…

Now, we are seeing the FRAUD that “carbon offsets/credits” are in the EU, but THINK about what carbon offsets are… they do NOT remove one bit of CO2 from the atmosphere which is SUPPOSED to be what this is about. All carbon offsets are is one person or company being given FREE-Reign to produce as much CO2 they want IF they “offset” it by PAYING the government. Now, the absolutely ludicrous thing is that companies then PASS THIS COST down to their customer-base through INCREASED costs (carbon offsets and the administration of it). So individuals get to pay TWICE… In the meantime, the CO2 is STILL in the air…

Now, of course the government will also have to RAISE TAXES in order to administer the program. Someone has to track compliance, and of course, MORE money will be extracted in the form of fees, fines, etc… to do so…

The more and more this goes on, the more you realize you are WITNESSING government take more and more CONTROL of your life… They are DESTROYING the basis of our founding - Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness… These are UNALIENABLE RIGHTS…

You ARE becoming LESS free… so WHY are your so READY to give up SO MUCH for yourself, your fellow citizens, and future generations, on a THEORY of man-made global warming?.. It is STILL an UNPROVEN theory…

I, for one, am NOT willing to give up my freedom. However, beyond becoming very politically active, I don’t know what else can be done at this point. We need a revolution, with MILLIONS of people marching on Washington and demanding our freedom back. However, that’s not going to happen until the pain is MUCH greater than it is now and may not happen even then. During WWII, millions of Jews allowed themselves to be marched into gas chambers - all with nary a whimper. Are we any different? I have my doubts.

This stuff happening right now is something you would see in a Comedy movie. (except… its real, and not funny).

Whats amazing is idiots like FO actually support this BS. I swear, i feel so alone sometimes. This is insane.

Prop manager,

I’ve often thought the same thing even though it’s an extreme comparison.Liberals will use that theory as to say we are comparing this to Hitler or some other BS.The hynotic trance is the same on both accounts really.I’ve read into this horrible part of history,and the similarities of the mindset are terrifying.

I hope that america had enough good people to stand against this massive takeover by the minority liberals.These types have to be shown that “We surround them” or else they assume we agree or are too intimidated to say anything.I hope and prey for this country to get rid of the corruption in govt. for the sake of our survival as the free nation thousands died to defend.This year coming will be the deciding factor for the future,I’ll be fully involved and we all should be.

I've often thought the same thing even though it's an extreme comparison.Liberals will use that theory as to say we are comparing this to Hitler or some other BS.The hynotic trance is the same on both accounts really.I've read into this horrible part of history,,and the similarities of the mindset are terrifying.

I’m not sure that it is an extreme comparison. Throughout history, socialists have killed over 100 MILLION people through their purges. The Nazis started by killing the sick and deformed. Here in the US, the liberals love to kill unborn babies and the crazy one world government that Obama dreams of has advocated only one child per family (in the interest of fewer humans excreting CO2). Once they sieze power, how long do you think they will allow all the deadbeats in this country to live. We’re headed for the mother of all economic collapses and we’ve got 100 million deadbeats in this country that are too lazy to work. I’ll give you two guesses what’s going to happen to those people. If your first guess is wrong, ask yourself - what would the Nazis do?

[[[…100 million deadbeats in this country that are too lazy to work…]]]]

Tsk, tsk. You aren’t taking into consideration that the deadbeats are the ones who form the voters power base for the socialists. Promise them free goodies in exchange for votes. Works every time.

So what will happen to the deadbeats is that they will be supported in comfort by those few remaining who will actually work.

You’re absolutely right Tatertot, but at some point - once the socialists have siezed power (as in a soviet style dictatorship), those deadbeats will become a liability. The socialists won’t need them anymore and then they’ll be marched to their demise by the very socialists that they voted for. Nobody likes a deadbeat - not even socialists.

Propertymanager,

“…and the crazy one world government that Obama dreams of has advocated only one child per family (in the interest of fewer humans excreting CO2).”

And this is what I was referring to when I’ve said that if the current levels of CO2 are truly a danger, then at some point in the future the level of population and the subsequent food needed to support it (i.e. - animals, vegetation, etc.) will EXCEED this amount. What then??? Hence the reason for population control and increase in marketing for us to eat less meat… The population increase will also increase methane (i.e. - animals and refuse) which is more toxic for the atmosphere…

Tatertot,

“Tsk, tsk. You aren’t taking into consideration that the deadbeats are the ones who form the voters power base for the socialists. Promise them free goodies in exchange for votes. Works every time.”

Which do you think is more important to them? The one that produces the money for them to do what they want or the ones who exchange goodies for votes? It’s an interesting question… one thing is certain, to maintain CONTROL, they will constantly pit one against the other…

One positive fact is greed always leads to the distruction of itself.We just have to prey it’s to the corrupt causing it before it’s to us all(kinda like the bank bailouts).And how can we put people in prison like maydoff and not people like Barney Frank,Pelosi,Reid,Obama,or anyone else that we have documented evidence against??
We did’nt have Maydoff on camera selling his scam did we?But we do with these liers in govt.Maybe if this was a possibility it would cut down greatly on corruption.