I get all that… but even though I agree with you on the policies, etc… the guy was still a human being, and nobody goes through life without doing some good… Kennedy did philanthropic things throughout his life, and while I totally DISAGREED with his policies, when someone dies, it’s a time for remembering the good, not the bad…
With the passage of time, discussing Kennedy’s policy legacy becomes more acceptable… Just look at our liberal friends, they have no QUALMS dissing presidents who have passed…
So, all I am saying is that we are ALL flawed, but we all also do some good in life, and focusing on someone’s negatives right when they pass just feels like dancing on someones grave…
Have you never heard that you should not speak ill of the dead? It is great that you are extremely interested in politics. This country needs more young people to get involved. However celebrating someone’s death is in very poor taste. Regardless of what you think of his politics Mr. Kennedy served this country for a very long time. There are a lot of people both republican and democrat that are paying their respects.
Hooch got the boot because he could not follow the rules. And at the end of his tenure here he went completely off the deep end. I’m sure you still keep in touch with him why not ask him where he spending his time now and perhaps you could follow him there.
The owner of this site is a liberal. Are you sure you want to continue contributing to a website that is frequented by as well as owned by liberals?
All people die. We are scared of death so we project ourselves onto dead people and don’t want to speak ill of them. But as soon as you die your track record becomes set in stone. You can’t repent or change over to the darkside.
That being said, I think it is fair game to call Kennedy a jerk if that is how you see being a liberal just like you can call Barry Goldwater a jerk if you are a liberal. I really do believe that the truth is in a person’s perceptions. They say a conservative is a liberal that has been mugged. Your life’s experiences should rule your philosophy, not some dogma liberal or conservative. A prime example is Strom Thurman. He was a staunch segregationist but changed later in life to just a normal racist (like all of us). His old segregationist friends think he sold out before he died, and some liberals can’t get past his change of view.
I say that since Kennedy was pretty steady and is now dead, he is now fair game.
I do feel that he wasn’t very smart. I think he followed a liberal script. That being said I don’t think he was a great policy guy. Now he was able to separate his politics from his personality. He would make a speech on the Senate floor about some liberal policy and then go out and have a drink with the conservatives in the Senate. That is something I admire. That way of thinking is dead now. Now conservatives see liberals as some sort of monsters and liberals see conservatives as monsters. We need to understand that we are all Americans and want the best for or country. We just want to get there in different ways.
While you make some good points I disagree with this comment.
just a normal racist (like all of us).
I am not a racist (although I have been known to tell a good polish joke every now but that is about it). You making light of racism and acting as if it is acceptable teaches young people like Hoosier that it is okay to be “a normal racist”. But my question for you is what makes up a normal racist??
Do you make off-color ethnic jokes, but draw the line at cross burning, or lynching?
You are right. I looked up the definition of racist and that can’t be normal. I meant that we have normal biases. We have biases for or against certain races, areas of the country, sports, sport teams, foods, beauty, or even religions. That is normal. If you don’t recognize your bias, then you can’t fix it. Unchecked it will naturally evolve into bigotry or in matters of racial bias, racism. For example I have a bias towards Baptist, so I have to be aware if I am in a conversation about catholic or Jewish or Methodist issues, I must not to be insensitive.
I have a bunch of biases. When I am in Kansas City I have to know that the bar-be-que I get will be different, I have to adjust my expectations so that I don’t spit it out. I have a bias towards the south, towards Texas, towards, smart, towards, beautiful. I have to be carful when I am around a Northern, New Yorker that is dumb and ugly.
“Your last post was thoughtful, well-written and intelligent.”
Only because you agreed with the content… had you said this about a post you DISAGREED with, it woud have held credibility… thanks for the attempt anyway… I know it must have been hard, that’s why you had to finish up with…
“I read the whole thing without my eyes rolling back in my head.”
Between the two of us, there’s only ONE of us that’s been kicked off this website… The interesting thing to me is that YOU CONSISTENTLY break the FIRST RULE of posting on this website…
**No Profanity or Name Calling - if you disagree, that’s fine, but do so in a professional manner. This includes private messages and emails.
And yet while OTHERS are booted (Hooch comes to mind) for violating this… you get a pass even though you’ve been booted before… very interesting…
For you, of ALL people, to accuse ANYONE HERE on this website of being an “@SSHOLE everytime” is COMPLETELY LAUGHABLE… the irony is SO THICK in that statement, everybody is giggling to themselves reading it… :biglaugh :lol
Furnished,
You ever hear of george washington,franklin??The founders believed power should be passed on or it will become abused(as demonstrated).Maybe you should look at any of the former posts I made where I fault the system as mostly the blame for corruption.I don’t believe those who have been in for more than two terms are just doing a good job :bs,if you do…well I guess I can’t help you there. :rolleyes
that is an EXCELLENT point… as a matter of fact, our first president George Washington DECLINED a third term and Jefferson did also…
“General Washington set the example of voluntary retirement after eight years,” Jefferson wrote in an 1805 letter to John Taylor. “I shall follow it, and a few more precedents will oppose the obstacle of habit to anyone after a while who shall endeavor to extend his term. Perhaps it may beget a disposition to establish it by an amendment of the Constitution.”
That didn’t happen unfortunately until after Roosevelts fourth term…
In Washington’s Farewell Address…
Warns against the party system. “It serves to distract the Public Councils, and enfeeble the Public Administration…agitates the Community with ill-founded jealousies and false alarms; kindles the animosity of one…against another…it opens the door to foreign influence and corruption…thus the policy and the will of one country are subjected to the policy and will of another.”
On stable public credit. “…cherish public credit. One method of preserving it is to use it as sparingly as possible…avoiding likewise the accumulation of debt…it is essential that you…bear in mind, that towards the payments of debts there must be Revenue, that to have Revenue there must be taxes; that no taxes can be devised, which are not…inconvenient and unpleasant…”
Pos,
Thanks,I just can’t understand why it’s so hard for liberals to understand this.And the problem being the good ole boy corrupt system.How can some be so gullible to think these elite leaders really know how to "feel your pain"as they have never have had to balance any kind of a budget of their own.Just don’t understand what’s hard to see here on what the problem is.
I think when the “handlers” have to show you where the bathroom is,it’s time to clock out and quit wasting our time and money.