I hate school. i do rather well in it though, but if i get a FL. license in real estate and mortgage broking, why should i go to college? the more important question for me is is it really necessary?
Join the Marines, Army, Navy or Air Force.
College will make you a more “well rounded” person. It may help you learn processes and procedures that will help in business. Education is a great tool, if you choose to use it.
On the other hand:
Do you HAVE to, nope. Many have made it without it, sometimes I question my own…only sometimes. The trick is getting a “job” to get your credit and loan availibility up. Being an agent you work for yourself, so you’ll need 2yrs worth of tax records to start to qualify for many loans.
That being said, IF you can get paired up with someone doing it, or if you have a great knack at it…you can do it. Hands on learning, IMO, pays very well. Just need to find your niche and excell at it.
So either way…it can be done. Both require time & work. REI is not get rich quick.
thanks for the advice but I’m not interested in it
yeah i get what your saying but say if i would have a good paying job build credit while using my partners for purchasing meanwhile would i still be able to pull what i need from just hands on or courses or do you still think college is the best way to go
thanks for the advice but I'm not interested in itJoining the military isn't really about what YOUR interested in.
Anyways, I never went to college. I believe it is counter-productive to an entrepreneurs ability to think unconventionally. You can read textbooks and drink beer to learn everything they’d teach you in college. If you decide to go to college, you’ll get out and be right where you started; no closer to your goal and no better able to start a company. No one can tell me that 4 years of reading books in a classroom is better than 4 years of starting and running a business. Which one do you think you’d learn more doing?
not being mean…just saying:
Do you have a good paying job?
Do you have the partners that will actually step up and give you the cash when you ask?
Really think on this one…I have yet to find one, even though they are behind me 100% (oxymoron) I’ve had contracts accepted only to have the money guy bail.
don’t worry about coming off mean i need your raw uncut advice … and i cant say its a good job on other peoples term but i get payed 11.50 an hour and im young still living at home with my mom and i only pay my water bill so i can put all my money to the side and i do because i am a stereotypical jew lol… but i hope on soon being a loan officer and working full-time so i get going in the real estate
thanks thats the way i see it and thats why i was asking but i seems there are two types of people one that say of course you should go and those who see no purpose not many people are in the middle
I spent 20 years in the military and it ain’t so bad…in fact I had some pretty cool jobs. I NEVER thought that the military would send me to Europe but they did (three times in fact!) or to work at the White House but they did (for seven years)…It’s all about what YOU make of your opportunities…and they paid for most of my college. Now, they not only pay a large percentage of courses that you take while you’re in, they also give you a butt-ton of money in the GI bill…
And to answer your question – IMO, yes, you should go to college. My son didn’t think he should but came to his senses after about 3 years…he just graduated with honors and played four years of Varsity football and in his last year won a Conference Championship ring…
Keith
i do believe the military and college can be great experiences and let you become well rounded but what i really want to know is, is there something that I’m just never going to get by not going compared to take courses and hands on
People that go to college and the military earn about the same over a lifetiime which is $1.3 to $1.6million more than a person with just a high school diploma. The reason is that when a person is between the ages of 18 and 23 he is a waste of a human. He is an adult and responsible for his actions but still has the experience level not much more than a child. So he does stupid things and makes some pretty big mistakes. When a person goes to college or the military, they are in an environment that controls them and minimizes their ability to screw up their lives through that critical age bracket.
The problem with the military is that they send you to get shot at right now (and they won’t let you out). Back when I was 18 the military was like camp and now it is like war. So…yes go to college.
There are more jobs in the military where you will never touch a gun outside of basic or boot camp than ones where you will. Being shot at and running over an IED is not the worst thing in the world. I’d have to say the worst thing in the world is knowing you contributed nothing but dumb comments to combating terrorism. If you’d rather suck up the free air that some gave it all for you to have rather than pay it back, college is not the only alternative.
Now that I think about it, the real reason I never went to college or even considered it was because I couldn’t afford it and didn’t have time in the military to take any classes. When you ask people questions like “What should I do?” you’ll get a lot of answers like “Do as I did.”
However, I still feel firmly that the grading systems and structured education inhibits your ability to think unconventionally and to become resourceful as an entrepreneur must be.
yes i know the military isn’t all about war lol its just not my cup of tea
… and another thing i don’t agree with about what bluemoon said ( no offense bluemoon i still value your advice) is that being 18 - 23 doesn’t mean your going to be stetotypical slack off… I have had my rei goals for quite some time and i know i will follow them through
WOW…Lets see, I guess dumb depends on what your definition of “is” is. We will have to talk politics someday!
Blue,
I didn’t mean that you were making any dumb comments, I was just stating my observations about the general public as a whole. Yes, we will have to talk politics someday. I am about as liberal as they come (only in the literal meaning, not always the political connotation) therefore very purple in that department and disagree with everyone on something! LOL
Gici,
If you haven’t gone to college yet, and believe you can make it in your business, launch your business. I would take some classes at community college - accounting, econ, management, or even 'mini classes" on business management, acctg, entreprenuership etc.
Where do I come from with this? A recent college grad, master’s level… I’ve been on the boards a year. Just as with undergrad, so is with grad school … everyone telling me to finish my degree. Major in this or that. I finished the degree. I felt that I spent the last year in paralysis by analysis regarding REI.
Your an adult now. Time for adult decisions. The person you ultimately answer to is yourself. Listen to your instincts, what are they telling you? Are you man enough to go against the grain (and the crowd) and pursue something off the wall/unconventional?? Then do it.
If you make a mistake, you’re still young enough to recover. You’re also young enough to have the effort, energy, and enthusiasm to do this stuff. If it doesn’t pan out, you can dust yourself off and try again, or evaluate your position and enroll in college.
Be honest with yourself - are you willing to work long hours at a crappy job to have work history? Are you willing to save and sacrifice - skipping party night with friends, missing vacations, packing meals in order to achieve your goals? It’s easy in chat and on paper, try it for two weeks… see how much you can save out of what you currently have. Can you make the sacrifice?
Walk up to 10 people this week and start small talk. Find out 5 things about them. See what develops. Can you handle the rejection? If you can’t start small talk, how do you expect to talk to a homeowner who doesn’t want to let you in the door, let alone sell you his house?
There are many steps you can take to test yourself before flatly denying either path.
Definitely go to college if you can afford it. Even if you can’t afford it, there are student loans and tons of govt grants that will help you.
College is important in the sense of you learning everything and making friends that one day will be your network when/if you need help/partners/jobs or just a trusted friend.
If your decision not to go to college is b/c you need you can make a ton by being mortgage broker or a real estate agent/investors, then thats a horrible reason. Do you know how many real estate investors/agents there are? I know there are some that make great money but I bet a lot of them make as much as you may think.
I enjoyed college and grew as a person, but if you hate school, you may want to get right into business. This is a personal decision that is based on where you want to me in life. If you want to be an entrepreneur, many do well without college. If you are going to work in business, I’d suggest having a degree.
College was more about the experience than the classes.
gici1,
You sound like you’ve already made up your mind, so why even ask? If you don’t want to go to college - don’t go.
My answer would be to go to college and get your degree. Life is long and I can almost guarantee that your interests in a few years will be much different than your interests now. That degree will open doors and help you get a better job if you ever decide you need one. Do you need a degree to do REI? No. Do you need a degree to get a good job? Yes.
Good Luck,
Mike