SELLER FINANCE OR BUST !!

hey all

got a absentee owner who is looking to sell his property

he wants 105k -95k

Comps currently around 80-115k

2bd 1ba

needs 12k repairs

floors look like they were installed by a 5 yr old with a hammer ( seriously)

they are raising up about 3 inches in the middle of 2 rooms

also the walls are raising as well

i can clearly see there were leaks somewhere however he is in total denial of these facts

he states he owned for 18 mo and was renting to a friend who stopped paying about 4 mo ago

I offered him 51k cash but he wants the 95 k

we discussed possible seller financing it with a % down and creating a note

this would be interesting to some of my end buyers at least 3 that i know of

so my ?? is

how would i structure this to make it work

looking for some real :shocked eye opening advice

thanks :beer

Did you do a title search to see if he is the owner and if there is any liens or taxes owed?

Is it usual to do a title search before you get the house under contract? I assumed that once you had the house under contract and found your end buyer, and sent all your contracts to the settlement company, that that was when you ordered a title search.

If I had to do a title search on every house I offered on, that would cost me a lot of time or a lot of money.

You could lose a deal by not doing your due diligence first. Find a title company to do your title search and make sure you treat the title company good and used them when you get ready to closed.

Once I have a house under contract, it goes to my lawyer who does the title work. If he finds any issues, he tells me and explains how to remedy the situation. Then we go back to the seller and see what they will do. In dozens of deals, we’ve only had title issues a few times. Two times we were able to resolve the situation. On one, the bank had improperly foreclosed and refused to fix things so we had to walk away, but I don’t think that’s a bad record.

Be careful there are a lot of quiet claim deeds floating around that are not worth the paper they are written on.

You could lose a deal waiting for a title report to come back while some other investor is signing your sales contract. I say, get the house under contract first. Once the deal is locked up, then run title. If there is a problem, either fix it or walk away.

I am not sure what you mean by you could lose a deal if you don’t do your due dilligence first.

What I mean is there are a lot of wholesalers that is trying to sell someone else homes just to make quick buck. We run a title search in about one hour to determined the owner and if there are any liens or problems that would keep from making a deal. You can do it your way and lock up the deal and if something pop up you can walk away from the deal you do that a few times and the news will spread like wildfire that you walk on deals.

REAL ESTATE SELLER

is the only way to do an acurate title search through a title company and dont they charge like 300-500 for this .

that can add up super fast and for a beginner such as myself i reluctantly say i just dont have that much cash laying around

i tried looking up the property on the county recorders website and got nothing
so i am going to the county in person to do research about 36 miles away

additionally i am to believe that the seller owns it as research in the MLS thanks to a broker im working with shows it was purchased cash last year

i see that the seller wants to get more than what he paid for it a year ago and it is unfortunate that he is blind to the fact that he made a questionable investment as this property is obviously in need of repairs : floors rising up and walls splitting foundation bricks cracking

he just dosent see it needs repair and he stated that a few homes in the area sold for 126k

however i looked and these were all FHA purchased homes and from my understanding those type of purchases require and appraisal and inspections that this property CLEARLY will not pass

this guy thinks he has a diamond when its just coal and not a desirable property the activity in the area RODEO california is not that active and sold comps for cash purchases only yeilded 4 in the last 6 months each maxing out at no more than 80k and he wants 100k

all i can think of is to do a seller finance deal and try and put off payments for 6 mo or so that way i might be able to sell this to an investor i know.

your thoughts are welcomed

thanks

Show the seller the problems in person and then make a offer with owner finance. I doubt the seller will finance 100%.

REAL ESTATE SELLER

Have shown him in person when went to look at house

he is in denial that it needs work eventhough the floors look like a 5th grader installed them i mean there is like a 2 inch gap around all the corners

so unprofessional its not even funny and when i pointed out the floors CLEARLY
raising up in the middle of the room his response was well i guess you can just put carpet over it ummm no there is repairs that are needed floors just dont rise all by themselves and the cielengs are soft you can obviously see sings of the roof leaking

i know the only way this would work is if i seller finance with a bit down like maybe 5-8k and finance the rest to his 90k asking price then i might be able to flip / wholesale this property

what im asking is the best way to structure this to work more beneficial to an investor so if you were to be presented this deal what terms would be interesting enough to you to take action and purchase

thanks

Most people used a title company to run a title search but we can run one just like a title company for a lot less.

So, if there is an issue with the title to a house, and after attempting to get clear title, it becomes apparent that it would be impossible to get clear title and that no one can buy the house, so the deal is canceled because the seller cannot live up to his/her contractual obligation to provide clear title, OR if I cancel an uneforceable contract with someone fraudulently trying to sell a house they do not own (because you cannot sell a house that you don’t own), if the other party is unable to fulfil their obligations or are being outright fraudulent, and I cancel, I would get a reputation for walking away from deals?

Boy, this real estate investor crowd is tough!

It is better to know what issues there are before you go under contact because some sellers want you to put up earnest money to make sure you are real.

And the seller is going to keep my earnest money when they are the ones who don’t own the home or can’t deliver clear title?

If the seller can not delivery clear deed you get your earnest money back that is in writing but if you do not closed the seller will keep the earnest money.

interesting you say this because my last deal i feel the seller was fraudulently trying to sell her fathers house and she would not provide all the needed docs to the title co which she picked by the way

i wonder if i should take the effort to sue her as my investor still wants her dump of a house and would like me to sue but i never been in litigation before and feel as it would only bring more headache for a shot at 3k max

It is right that you require much time for title search for the property but it is most necessary before purchasing any property as it would create problem after purchasing property if title search not completed properly.

Unless I missed something, what is the AFTER REPAIR VALUE? You can’t calculate anything else without it!

If the numbers show a profit then get the deal under contract. The contract is contingent upon clear title.

I only put $10 down in escrow as a deposit.