Possible Deal, I'd Like Some Input

I’ve got my eye on this small property in a low-income area that is vacant and the seller is motivated. I try to structure my assignments based on my buyer. In this example, these numbers reflect a rehabber who will clean up the property more than a buy-n-holder who plans on renting it out. If this property needed to merely reflect the conditions of the surrounding houses for renting, I could reduce that repair estimate to $7000 or maybe a little less.

Here’s the details:

Listing Price: $79,000

$50,000 Purchase price of rehab (this is what I’ll offer)
$10,000 cost of repairs (paint, carpet, yard)
$3,000 My assignment fee
$2,328 14% of loan/12 x 3 # of mos held
$3,000 5% Point(s) for loan origination fee
$500 Other purchase fees=appraisal, title cost, termite report, comps,etc
$850 Holding cost= # mos x (taxes, insurance, utilities, etc.)
$500 Hedge factor
$4,250 Sale fees, ads (increase % if using realtor!)
$74,428 Total cost of project

$85,000 ARV (After Repair Value) Low end

$7,500 20% goal
$10,573 Profit

I know the profit spread isn’t much, but it’s over the standard 20% profit margin required for it to be a “good deal” for a rehabber who plans on selling the house. Also, these numbers are based on a typical hard money loan, reflected in the points and higher interest rate. If a rehabber bought this with cash, then the equity spread could increase by another $6,000.

So, what do y’all think? Do any of you have rehabbers that do these “little deals” and like these types of numbers, or are they more about the amount of money and not a percentage profit?

It’s way to thin for my taste.
It always costs more and takes longer than you think.
And then you’ll have to pay taxes on the profit…if you end up having any.

Hey TN,

Yes, I agree that the profit spread is very thin and any unforeseen problem could wipe it away lickedy split. I just got another set of comps, with sold comps in a tighter radius that more accurately reflects that specific neighborhood.

The good news is that my new offer price just dropped down to $25,000 based on the new, more accurate ARV of $66,000 (instead of $85,000). I’ll be submitting an offer this week. We’ll see how motivated this seller is. This property has been vacant and has been vandalized, with a DOM of over 180 days, so I’m optimistic.

That’s looking a little better, Bob. I hate rehabs…MURPHY seems to always be involved. Be sure to cushion your expenses to allow for him.
Regards,
Dave

Well, this deal is a dud.

I searched the public records office online and found out that less than two years ago this owner bought the house and has a mortgage for over $65k. There is no way I’m going to get that property for what I need it to be. The numbers just don’t work. This person will never get that much for that property unless they clean it up themselves and eat some repair costs to patch it up.

My buyer’s agent agreed that we shouldn’t even waste our time with this one. Who knows, maybe I’ll see it on the foreclosure list this year… lol

On to the next ugly house… 8)

Why does it have to be ugly?

Da Wiz