I went to a Nouveau Riche seminar this past week. The marketing aspect of this appears that it could be fairly lucrative. Obviously, like any other company, they want you to purchase their seminars, classes, etc. However, it seems like it could be a great opportunity. Has anyone joined? Any positive/negative feedback?
codog13 - search the forum for information posted around the Nouveau Riche program. There are a lot of good information here about the program that will help you save money.
My personal suggestion - instead of paying for a mentor/course, use the money for your first real estate deal. You can learn a ton of information here in the forum and at your local REIA meetings.
In this thread:http://www.reiclub.com/forums/index.php/topic,35092.0.html, you indicated you signed up for another series of courses offered by yet another me-too guru with ostensibly few credentials and what is probably a slick presentation. These courses total tens of thousands of dollars and won’t offer you anything close to the level of understanding or experience you’ll receive if you simply buy a cheap REO, fix, and flip it. What exactly are you expecting to learn at these courses that you can’t acquire by reading borrowed books from your library and meeting like minded investors at your local real estate clubs?
Nouveau Riche is nothing more than an MLM scheme that hides behind real estate. They tend to be militant and relentless sales people that won’t leave you alone once they have their hooks into you. Their M.O. is to jump on those that criticize them. Just watch what happens to my comments here. This thread, like most others regarding NR, will quickly degrade.
Are you interested in making money with real estate or selling courses to your friends and family?
Here we go…
I got the same impression a couple of years ago when first exposed to them. Do yourself a favor and learn at your local REIA and as a bird dog or property locator for an established wholesaler that can act as a mentor.
I went to Nouveau Riche seminar and was dismayed to learn they wanted me to pay about $20,000 or so.
Too expensive for little gain. Gain that I can gather myself for free.
There was one excited NR member salesman. I asked how many houses he bought using the knowledge he leaned from the seminar. He replied that he has not bought any and is in the process of saving some money. That was a big red flag for me. If he learned some wonderful secret knowledge, then how come he didn’t buy 5 properties?
So i decided to forget NR. Sounded too much like scam. Not saying they are scam, but seemed like one.
Ah, a few somewhat negative posts about NR. Where’s the wingman to come defend the scam…er program??
Three words sum up NR:
“Who’s your daddy?”
Take the $20K and leverage about $100K or more of property…
Keith
i’ve read through alot of posts on here. a search should give you an abundance of information. for the most part, i would say many investors aren’t pro NR (at least on this forum)
john
They are a scam. Their so called REI program is just a smokescreen to sucker you into a MLM program that won’t get you nowhere. As someone mentioned I would use the cost to join them to buy real estate and make money that way.
I really don’t know much about nouveau riche so I won’t comment on their system.
But I know a decent amount about internet marketing and one of the leading tactics for promoting products is to introduce and anonymous person who brings up various subjects to raise attention towards a particular product or service. Then drive newbies to the search engines where they can learn more…
The easiest way to tell people like this is when they make no valuable contributions other than to introduce some question that leads people where they want them to go…
Just my two cents. i am off to google now to check them out.
Equity,
After reading your response, I was a little confused, so I went back to my other posting. Low and behold, I mistakenly left out the word “NOT” in that post (which I have since gone back and edited). Meaning, I didn’t choose to sign up for ICRE. I went to the free seminar and it sounded interesting. However, and I agree with you, I didn’t think it was worth the money.
As far as NR, my interest in this was the marketing side of it, which seems like it could be a nice monthly income if done correctly. I really have no interest in shelling out 16K for classes. Just wanted to clear this up. I am a strong believer in good education… however I am an even stronger believer in gaining experience.
I am glad to have learned of REIclub.com, as I have decided this is not worth the money. I am going to go back to the NR person I was dealing with and share what I have learned here. I am interested to get his take.
Make sure you post how that conversation goes. Should be interesting. MLM is HIGH PRESSURE because they have to make people feel like they’re missing out on the deal of a lifetime if they don’t sign up.
For what it’s worth, I would highly encourage everyone reading these posts to do their own research.
Where's the wingman to come defend the scam...er program??
As always, the wingman has finally arrived - a little off course but still following the leader!
Mike
I wonder what took him so long :cheesy
NR folks have their marketing in place. this debate is very frequent. perhaps reiclub is a primary place to recruit new members :rolleyes
I am a Nouveau Riche member. No, I didn’t pay $16,000… I paid closer to $24,000 after all was said and done to actually attend some of the classes down in Arizona. I tried all the tricks they told me to make money to pay for the student loan I got to pay for the “college”. None of the tricks worked. You wanna know what their response was? Not in these exact words, but effectively, “You need to work harder (at the marketing)”. @#$%ers! :cussing My “mentor” eventually told me that he was not my real-estate coach, but my marketing coach. W-T-F-!-!-!-! :gored Can any of you imagine the things in real-estate that could have been done if I would have spent $16,000 on real marketing? My “mentor” will still call my wife from time to time to try and sucker her into doing his recruiting for him. He won’t call me since I told two of his clients the whole truth about Nouveau Riche and they never signed up because of what I said. I won’t be renewing this year even though its only $75 yearly membership fee. Of course, you’ll never hear about the people that were members, but left. Nouveau Riche will never publish those stats. It’ll be interesting to see if they try to re-recruit us. I did make sure to download all the class audios. Those do have value although not 1+ year of time, long-term marital damage and $16,000 worth. The typical marketing minion at a Nouveau Riche hang-out will talk all day long about selling more Nouveau Riche, but they have little to say about investing in real-estate, much less any of their own. Don’t expect to find good real-estate deals from them - they all want to sell at retail and above. Don’t expect to find any buyers for your real-estate - they all want to buy at less than 50%. There are a handlful of people at Nouveau Riche convections that actually do (or have) invested in real-estate. I never could really understand why they were hanging out at Nouveau Riche, though, instead of out working more real-estate.
Dean
Dean - thank you for sharing your story/experience. I hope this will help other people. So in a way you could consider the money you spent with Noveau Riche as your way to give back to the community - you spent the money so others can hear the experience from you and not lose their own money.
Thank you again for sharing.
I have met several people from NR. They are always inviting me to one of their events. It appears that I have more experience doing deals than some of the NR members.
Here is my advice/2 cents: Instead of spending $20K or whatever it is on NR, focus on one or two particular stategies. If you need more education, many of the teleseminars that REI club offers typically have specials for under $1,000. So there you go.
It’s unfortunate that the Moderator of REIClub will not allow me to post my positive experience with NR. No “wingman” responses, because we’re not allowed to post them! Too funny.