Not happy with 1st REI club meeting

What are your local REI club meetings like?

Wow, went to a local REI club meeting last night. 95% of the people there were completely new, which I sort of expected, but most of them didn’t even know a single thing about real estate. Which leads me to believe they didn’t do any research prior to the event. My goal was to connect with experiences investors, but there were 2 people there that I honestly felt were legit investors. They didn’t take me very seriously because I was one of the 30 people who went up to them trying to connect as a new investor.

I will attend the next meeting and try again but I honestly don’t see why so many people on this forum rave about the meetings. Maybe it’s my location, Seattle. Maybe I tried too hard. I am going to look for otherways to network, the meeting gave me no contacts that I believe will help out.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Most REIC’s are a worthless venture. Some speaker-of-the-month selling his get-rich-quick crap, and an audience of wannabes who were told to go and make connections with all the wealthy and willing experienced investors who populate the room. :rolleyes

Yup, half the meeting was a sales pitch. I almost fell asleep.

There is always going to be a tension between “pitch fest,” networking opportunity, and actionable information download.

The issue I find is that the better real estate clubs are actually investor network clubs where they actually trade, discuss, buy, and sell real estate. Newbies are a drain on everyone’s time. They offer nothing, but ignorance and questions. That gets old for the busy investors.

Can you imagine your doctor showing up to a ‘doctor wanna-bee’ meeting, and all the doctor wanna-bees start asking a bunch of newbie questions like, “How do I do surgery?” Or, “Which is better for me to learn? Brain surgery or Gall bladder surgery?”

“Well, uh, try going to medical school first and find out” would be my answer.

All that said, I attend the biggest club in Southern California, and there’s typically between 500 to 800 in attendance each month. They offer a library for members to check out all the classic/proven gurus’ courses. They also provide face time for any who wish to share deals and offer services. There’s a place to put flyers for whatever you have to offer (or want).

However, the most important aspect about it is that the speakers not only sell their stuff, but they offer actionable information as a reason to attend. It’s not an hour and a half showing off canceled checks, and pie in the sky ‘opportunities,’ but nuts and bolts of what somebody can do right now.

There’s another club here that was all pitch fest, all the time. It imploded. However, it transformed itself into a first rate, limited membership, ‘investor-only’ club. It’s truly offered for investors by investors. There’s no formal pitching whatsoever. It’s hard to get a seat at that table. Newbies aren’t welcome.

That all said, the national speakers won’t do freebies. There’s too many people/groups willing to pay them to share their expertise to do it for free. This isn’t a non-profit enterprise as you might guess …even if the cover charge is small.

Then consider the fact that the club facilities usually charge a minimum of several hundred dollars just to open the doors and add a ‘per head charge’ is on top of that. Well, it gets expensive …and takes a lot of time and preparation. Nobody does it for free.

As a result, I think traveling to the largest investor clubs you can find, taking advantage of any training, or resources they offer, passing out business cards, making lunch appointments with the actual investors (taking them someplace nice, not McDonalds, Denny’s, Perkins, or IHOP!!) and then you’ll have a better experience making connections.

Frankly, offering lunch to the movers and shakers at the small clubs is probably a good way to move to the head of the line fast.

Bottom line, it’s not the pitch fest to worry about, it’s what you’re gonna offer the ones who’ve got what you want that’s important. This is not the time to be a leech.

Hope that helps…
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I don’t know that I’ve ever seen anyone on REIclub “rave” about REIAs. No one has said you’re gonna get rich going to a REIA meeting.

What I and others have stated is REIAs are great for specific things, such as getting referrals for attorneys/title companies that do creative closings in your area, what contractors do good work for cheap, etc. You’ll also get to at least know who are some of the players in your area (people actually doing deals). These are the people you’ll eventually want to get to know.

Here’s a great way to position yourself at the top of the newbie herd: announce a good wholesale deal! Get yourself a deal, or an option on someone else’s deal and announce it. Trust me there ARE cash buyers quietly lurking in the shadows at every REIA meeting; you just don’t see them. They’ll make themselves known if you’re offering a killer deal (you’ll be building your buyers list). And then all of a sudden you’ll have a dozen newbies in front of YOU asking YOU questions, trying to pick YOUR brain. Hell of an ego booster. And those experienced guys who seem so aloof will suddenly look at you as “one of them” so to speak. Instant credibility.

Also agreeing with Javipa. I’ve never sat through a guru pitch without picking up SOMETHING useful and actionable that I never knew before.

I remembered those days. I went to one of those long time ago. That’s where I was told to start. I actually learned something from “those sale pitch”. My advice to you is to do the research and pick a real estate seminar/training that matches to your goals…wholesale, flip, landlording or commercial real estate. They all have pro and con. Investors have made money doing any of them…you just have to do it. I did all of them and I found my success in commercial real estate.

I have spent a lot of time and money attending real estate seminars since I started real estate investing 8 years ago. I still do. When you go to a good one, you will learn a ton of information, technique and tools you can use. You will also meet a lot of successful…wealthy real estate investors.

There is cost for everything. You either pay for your education early on (taking a medical school from javipa example) or pay afterword (from your mistake that could have been avoid if you have the knowledge)

Good Luck
Val

REI clubs are not the end all be all in REI education or support. However, you can usually distill a few shots of good information from the oceans of rot gut water sprayed at the audience. Although no longer an active member, I still follow my local REI club and attend meetings that I believe have potential for me to learn more about some REI subject I am interested in.

about 25 years ago I was attending a sales seminar for the radio industry, a speaker ask who had read a book on sales in the past month, the people that held up there hands were the people that had been in sales 10+ years, and were the ones I didn’t think needed to know anything new,but they realized that if they picked up one little piece of information, even if its something they knew but had forgotten, it was worth it.

Same way with meetings, if you pick up one piece of information, or make one contact its worth your time

These meetings are not going to teach you how to do real estate. What you are trying to get from them is who they know. They know the people that you need to know so that you can do real estate. What you need is financing people, realtors, accountants, lawyers, title companies, insurance agents contractors, etc that are INVESTMENT GRADE. You want the guys putting on the meeting to give you the name of one all are at least one of those types of guys. Once you talk to that person (preferable the financing person) then ask him who he knows and build your network by asking each of them who they use for these services.

This reminds me of a business networking meeting I went to in North Dallas one time. This was a huge group, that had something like well over 1000 members on the Ryze business networking website, and 100+ members going to this one meeting. To me, this looked like a great chance to meet up with other small business owners.

Oh lordy, there were unemployed people there looking for a job, guys pitching their MLM get-rich-quick schemes (Amway, Quixtar, etc) and even one guy selling copies of his cheesy book that he self published (some self published books are great, but this one was just stupid). I even ran into one guy who was a bad salesman, telling me he would guarantee me funding for my business, as long as I gave him a $650 consultation fee UP FRONT. LOL, YEAH RIGHT! I wasn’t looking for funding, but of course he had other people drooling all over him.

Anyway…I never, ever wasted my time going to one of those meetings again. It was a complete, and utter joke.

Enjoy
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