Bluemoon06,
“That is why when see a woman with a baby you don’t say that baby looks like an old man. Because all babies look like old men but it is not civil to do that.”
I’ve never seen a baby with stubble, misaligned teeth, or nose and ear-hair… I’ve never equated babies with old men… I still don’t, but interesting observation…
“Now about if Obama is lying or not. Although all politicians lie, in this case he can’t be lying because there is no bill. He can’t even write a bill. Congress writes the bill.”
The ones that have made it through committee are the ones he is talking about… How can Obama say that illegals and abortion are not in the bill, if he is not talking about a bill? Rep’s offered two separate ammendments regarding proof of citizenship, and the Dem’s voted on party lines NOT to include it… They also voted down on party lines an ammendment regarding abortion… WHY do you think that is??? Check out the CRS on this issue…
“Joe Wilson can write anything he wants into that bill. That is his job. He needs to get in the meetings and do the dirty sausage making it takes to get whatever he is trying to say in the bill.”
That’s not how it works, Bluemoon06, do a little reading on civics… he can PROPOSE it only, he cannot write ANYTHING into any bill… That has been a crticism all along… the Reps have been iced-out, despite the Dems, inlcuding Obama, saying that they want Rep ideas… Obama hasn’t had ANY Rep leaders up to the White House since APRIL despite him saying publicly he wants bi-partisanship… McCain, Mr. Bi-partisnanship said “he knows bi-partisanship and this isn’t it”…
“Now about being socialists. We are all socialists. Every time we call to report a pot hole, we are using a socialist program that is designed to provide roads for as all. When we send out kids to school we are using a socialist program of public schools. When somebody breaks into our house and we call the police we are using a socialist program for common law enforcement. We just only want the socialist things that we want and not the socialist things that we don’t’ want.”
I would respectfully submit, you are not entirely familair with the Constitution… re-read and then try to make the above argument… you can make the argument for the REAL socialist programs out there, which is what we argue about all the time… that does not make them any less socialist…
“That is one more aspect of the Regan legacy. The only thing that Ronald Reagan did was to make us comfortable with our prejudices. We believe that as long as we are acting “conservative” it is ok not to be civil.”
For someone who talks about people not being “old enough to remember”, you have a short memory… He used to fight like hell during the day, but would leave it at the door when he took his political hat off… Remember Top O’Neil???
The Dem’s made incivility an artform… They are usually the ones to make it personal as opposed to policy…
“Reagan’s legacy makes us feel that anybody that is not conservative is somehow not worthy of an opinion or some how less than human and deserves to be killed or yelled at.”
That is among one of the most ridiculous things I’ve read in a long time…
“It is like I said earlier the difference between a conservative and a liberal. Is that liberals hate unborn people and conservatives hate everybody else.”
The list of who liberals hate is extensive and goes WAY BEYOND unborn babies…