New World Order - OK, the Socialists Convinced Me!

Random Ramblings
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I’ve got to tell you that I have been skeptical of the New World Order talk and have wondered if all the hupla was just coming from members of the tin foil hat club. Then, yesterday, I saw this video of Walter Cronkite accepting the GLOBAL GOVERNANCE AWARD for his life-long effort to help institute a New World Order with world governance. What’s even more shocking is that at the end of the video, Hillary Clinton congratulates Cronkite on this award.

I’ve heard President Bush, President Clinton, and others taking about a New World Order, but I still didn’t believe it until I saw this video:

http://www.eagleforum.org/topics/global/global.html

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I agree, Unfortunately, the majority of Americans are too busy watching cable TV to care. As the economy sinks further hopefully people will start to wake up.

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Finally I got to see a video that was inspiring. I recommend it to you all.

Propertymanager, you have an overwhelming fear of government. Instead you should have a fear of LACK of government. What is it about the idea of World Peace that paralyzes you?

What is it about change that scares you so much?

If you had been alive in 1770, you would have been a Loyalist. A Royalist. You would have been saying, “Don’t CHANGE anything! We don’t need a new order! Change is scary! Leave the British alone!” You would have ended up a Canadian.

Thank God there are people who are BIG THINKERS. Who actually have the guts to say out loud, “The first job of humankind is to establish world-wide justice for its peoples.”

People who can look fifty years down the road and work for world courts, world treaties that help pull rogue nations under the rule of law, world programs to ban poverty and starvation. We are 200 nations now; we used to be thousands of armed villages, duchies, clans, tribes.

Can’t mankind begin to think about how people can settle disputes by the rule of law, rather than by killing? Why does that seem treasonous to you?

As for me, I am a human being first, and an American second.

Furnishedowner

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Unbelievable.

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Furnish,

Wat r u talking about?? Government is not the solution of the problem, Government is the problem. I think the BIG THINKERS would be very ashame if there was be a global government. Think about the taxes increase, wasn’t taxes one of the big reasons there was a revolution in the 1st place? There’s so many things that can go wrong, and I strongly believe it will not solve world starvation with programs. It’s an agenda to keep them starving, you really think they will actually get help? :rolleyes

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Propertymanager, you have an overwhelming fear of government. Instead you should have a fear of LACK of government. What is it about the idea of World Peace that paralyzes you?

Yeah, that’s what I should fear - FREEDOM! :rolleyes That doesn’ suprise me coming from a socialist. If you watched the video, they weren’t talking about world peace, they were talking about world domination. In Walter Cronkite’s fantasy land, a few elites would control the world and control every facet of our lives. NO THANKS!

Thank God there are people who are BIG THINKERS. Who actually have the guts to say out loud, "The first job of humankind is to establish world-wide justice for its peoples."

It’s ironic that you phrased it that way, because “social justice” and “economic justice” are codewords for the redistribution of wealth that the socialists (including The Chose One) are pushing for. NO THANKS!

People who can look fifty years down the road and work for world courts, world treaties that help pull rogue nations under the rule of law, world programs to ban poverty and starvation.

Thank God that there are still some Americans that love freedom and will fight any move toward global socialism.

As for me, I am a human being first, and an American second.

You’ve made it quite clear that your loyalties lie with the socialists.

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Furnishedowner,

“Finally I got to see a video that was inspiring. I recommend it to you all.”

So you are inspired by one-world government? OK… WHICH type of government? It certainly can’t be a government of a FREE people, right? So which one exerts enough control for you?

“Propertymanager, you have an overwhelming fear of government. Instead you should have a fear of LACK of government. What is it about the idea of World Peace that paralyzes you?”

Fear of lack of government? Are you serious??? What makes you think that World Peace is brought on by MORE government?

"Thank God there are people who are BIG THINKERS. Who actually have the guts to say out loud, “The first job of humankind is to establish world-wide justice for its peoples.”

What do you base this thinking on? And what do you define as justice? I am sure an Iranian has a much different version of justice than you, as an American, does… I am sure China has a different view of human rights than you, as an American, does… so, define it…

"People who can look fifty years down the road and work for world courts, world treaties that help pull rogue nations under the rule of law, world programs to ban poverty and starvation.

Here is where your logic completely breaks down… As we can see with Iran, a rogue nation, they don’t like the international rule of law, and they are completely rubbing Obama’s nose in it with regards to their nuclear ambitions… The main reason is, they recognize that the Security Council is all bark and no bite… Kinda like CRIMINALS view our justice system…

“We are 200 nations now; we used to be thousands of armed villages, duchies, clans, tribes.”

And you forget, that as these governments form and GROW, under the guise of centralized government, the MORE death occurs… the 20th century was the BLOODIEST in history under the least amount of governments… it saw the League of Nations, the UN, NATO… THINK about what you saying…

“Can’t mankind begin to think about how people can settle disputes by the rule of law, rather than by killing? Why does that seem treasonous to you?”

Because it belies and ignores the REALITY that evil exists in this world… have you figured out a way to eradicate evil? Evil people and CRIMINALS don’t respect the rule of law, do you not understand this?.. Do you honestly think that Al Quada will EVER think the way you do? They kill INNOCENT people, never mind their enemies… For someone who has lived around the world, you have a very limited understanding of culture…

“As for me, I am a human being first, and an American second.”

Wouldn’t a more accurate way of saying that for you be - “I am a citizen of the world first, and an American second”?.. Does that also mean that if the laws of humanity are violated by American laws, that you will follow American Law second?

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Furnishesowner,

BTW… you may be excited over a One World Government video, but others find it MUCH more exciting about those willing to defend what this country is about… have a look at this…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7FYDa_puHo

I would be curious to see if you consider this man a radical?.. hmmmm…

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WOW! There really is at least one politician that gets it!

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I saw the video…say, what?!

It was all about “Get Your Bayonets and Fight”! Who is he exhorting people to fight? Fellow Americans? I THOUGHT WE FOUGHT WITH OUR VOTES?!

Empty rhetoric that incites people to scream and holler is not going to get anything done once the rally is over. Where are the concrete platforms, the real work?

Another wanna-be politician who is finding it easier to criticize and tear down rather than build up. I’d like to see that guy debate someone who actually might have a plan. He would be shredded.

Furnishedowner

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Furnishedowner,

“Empty rhetoric that incites people to scream and holler is not going to get anything done once the rally is over. Where are the concrete platforms, the real work?”

I doubt it surprises anyone here that you would feel that way… You are not only NOT calling for less government, you are advocating MORE and MORE and MORE… it’s pretty much your only answer to any societal problem… Do you actually dispute this? I didn’t think so… You are comfortable with giving the government all your money and trust (or worse, OTHER peoples money on your behalf) when they HAVEN’T EARNED IT…

Your ideal environment, is not only GOVERNMENT control, but INTERNATIONAL government control… that CONTROL is over one thing… PEOPLE’S FREEDOM!

The MORE you give to the government in taxes and power, the LESS FREE you are… do you dispute this as well???

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It was all about "Get Your Bayonets and Fight"! Who is he exhorting people to fight? Fellow Americans? I THOUGHT WE FOUGHT WITH OUR VOTES?!

He is talking about fighting with our votes now. However, unless you’re totally blind, you should have at least a little understanding of what’s going on in this country. This country was founded on FREEDOM! The socialists are trying to take that freedom away. Although many of the socialists that live on the coasts would be fine with that, patriotic Americans in the heartland (almost everywhere but the coasts) WILL NOT STANDBY WILL OUR COUNTRY IS DESTROYED.

The president has surrounded himself with people who are OVERT socialists, communists, and marxists. That fact is not disputable. The president is pushing an agenda of “social justice” and “economic justice”, which sounds great on the surface. Unfortunately, theses are code words for a plan to reduce the standard of living in the United States and transfer that wealth to those in the world who are less prosperous. The same words also mean transferring wealth within the United States to both ends of the spectrum (the mega rich and the "poor), while destroying the middle class.

This means the destruction of the country and everyone with even half a brain knows it. You’re seeing it right before your eyes. Here in the heartland, I hear people talk about it every day.

I had a court hearing today. The previous case ran over a little bit and my lawyer and I were chatting. I ended up discovering that she had her concealed carry permit and carries a handgun. Even more shocking to me is that she asked me what I thought about the government trying (unsuccessfully) to prevent people on the terrorist watch list from being able to buy guns! I was stunned that she understood the implications of that issue. Just like “social justice” and “economic justice”, denying guns to people on the terrorist watch list sounds like a GREAT IDEA! I’m sure that this is something that you would like as a way to control guns in the wrong hands. The problem is that the government can put ANYONE on that list. Today that list MAY have only people that the government truly thinks are terrorists. Tomorrow, it could be anyone that has said something negative about “The Chosen One”, or anyone that has attended a tea party. This is VERY DANGEROUS and my attorney knew that. By the way, the JUDGE also has a concealed carry permit and carries a handgun also.

Further evidence that millions of Americans understand this issue (despite the fact that you don’t) is that ammo and reloading supplies are still in extremely short supply. I was a Walmart today and the shelves were all buy empty! People are buying and stockpiling ammo as fast as it can be produced BECAUSE THEY KNOW THAT THEIR WAY OF LIFE IS UNDER ATTACK AND THAT OUR SOCIETY IS LIKELY TO COLLAPSE.

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What is plain is that our country is becoming more polarized. More extreme right, more anti-government militancy, more fear-mongering, more disenfranchisement.

Will the Republican Party split into a right wing and a more moderate wing? Or is this just a very noisy splinter of the whole party?

It’s the first time in my life that I am hearing fellow Americans with such hate and fear of their government. It’s the first time that I am hearing, “I have to protect myself against the government!”

Where do we go from here? Will you guys march, guns in hand, if a vote doesn’t go your way? Are you seriously thinking of overthrowing our elected government?

Furnishedowner

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Its amazing you say were becoming polarized because people are moving to the “extreme right.”

Furnished… people are moving FURTHER RIGHT, its people like YOU who are moving FARTHER LEFT (to the point of hardcore crazy Socialism)

The problem with the Republican party is that they arent Conservatives anymore. They are all damn near Liberals!

Your considered “Extreme Right” if you believe in the Constitution guys!!!

You are one crazy person FO.

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So, you’re saying that you’ve never heard of/read the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution? part of the framers’ intent of the 2nd Amendment is to allow the American people to protect themselves from their government.

An armed citizen is free…un unarmed citizen is a subject.

Keith