Ok, first off let me say that I made a newbie post a couple of months ago regarding low income land lording and though I strayed from these forums for a bit (lost my nerve and needed to regroup), allow me to apologize for appearing to have dropped off the face of the planet in which case your advice was wasted. I GREATLY appreciate all those who jumped in and advised me to the best of their ability.
Now, this may get a bit complicated as I have some investing questions as well as personal preference/recommendation questions so bear with me and I will try to organize this as best I can.
I’m 30 years old and my goal is to be at least living off real estate in 5 years. To me, “living off real estate” equates to making a reliable 100k or so per year. So, that having been said, let me give you some facts and figures.
my fiance and I have a joint income of about 70k gross per year. We currently reside in a nice apartment outside of Baltimore, MD. We’d like to buy a house when the lease is up. I am open to any sort of real estate ventures that would work out best for me.(i.e. commercial/residential “flipping”/section 8 landlording, etc.)
My situation has changed slightly since I last posted in that I have come into a sum of nearly 30k cash which is available to me if need be. I don’t want to blow all of that in one place so to speak. I want to turn that 30k into 60k, into 80k, etc…
I have a great family friend mortgage guy and his mother, a great family friend residential real estate agent of about 40 years experience in the area. I also have befriended a seemingly successful commercial real estate broker. My father is an attorney. So, I feel like I have some decent resources to start with. Anyhow, I was talking to my mortgage guy about buying properties to rent out. I told him I had little cash to work with AND I want to buy a house for my family and I to live in, somehow doing all of this in a perfect order. Here is what he told me… “investment mortgages require roughly 30% down, and seeing as how you don’t have that, we will have to be clever to make this work. Here is the only way I can see this working out and you’re first two deals will have to be PERFECT, netting you enough cash to make the down payment on the third deal and this is why. Since you live in an apartment, you will have no problem getting a loan to buy your first house. obviously you want to move into a house so there will be no questions. so, you will get a loan (not investment loan with 30% down but a typical mortgage loan), buy a house, rehab it and sell it for profit. then when you go to get your next conventional mortgage, you could likely argue that the first house you bought was nice but by the time you got moved in, you found another house that was a better deal so you sold the first one and now you need finance for the second” He told me that that scenario would likely be accurate but after the second house sold, the underwriters would never believe that I was not investing so I would be bound to conventional 30% down payment loans.
So… That’s what he told me. So let’s run down my facts for a recap before I ask my questions…
- joint income of 70k gross
- 30k cash available
My questions are as follows:
- did the above scenario seem likely?
- how does buying a personal house fit into all of this?
- most importantly, what EXACTLY should I do to begin all of this taking my goals into consideration. I mean, exactly what? “flip” a few houses to get my cash up, do the section 8 rental route, pass go and move directly to commercial and buy an apartment building? I’m truly clueless and quite honestly a bit nervous. I have the will and nerve to jump into this as I truly see real estate as a great investment but I’m sort of looking to have my hand held.
Thanks to ALL who have taken the time to read this.