My Road to Real Estate: What I Did and How I Made Progress

I wanted to write a little synopsis about my time with real estate. I write this after hearing an encouraging word from (Furnishedhomeowner) in the Random Ramblings section of how newbies might like to hear one of the million+ ways to skin this cat.

A few points:

-I am starting out and am not yet “successful”
-For reference, I am 28 and only have an Associates Degree
-I manage a small restaurant and make under $40k
-I began with NOTHING.

Beginning:

I always hated the shows; “Flip this House” “Flip that House”. It was an abomination of sorts to make money that easily by adding a bush in front and a wine rack in the kitchen. I knew my mantra was in the works: “Look at what EVERYONE is doing…now do the opposite” This was especially true when I was pre-qualified for a $250k no-doc loan when I was selling cars making $30k. I knew “something” was going to happen.

I became a Retail Broker after taking my real estate license exam and interning while selling cars. It seemed cool. I made no money. I went back to selling cars 2 years later. I learned a lot. I considered it “tuition”.

2008 the economy tanks and I get out of car sales and into the restaurant management business. i receive my first steady paycheck. I have a nice car that I am PUMPING with money (2000 Audi S4) mods, insurance and repairs. It is a hinderance to me though I love the thing. I am hearing that people are losing there homes left and right. I decide:

“IT’S TIME TO LEARN HOW TO BUY AND GET MY DUCKS LINED UP”

I got an IPhone and I urge you to do the same Mr. Beginner. I listened to all types of pod casts and books on tape about the different kinds of deals that can be done. I bookmarked every helpful website I came across for later. I learned to see each house I walked by (while listening) with a “what if I bought that” mentality. I started noticing the tell tale signs of a foreclosure; Sticker on the front door or window talking about trespassing or winterization. You can see both from the street. I watched the market by setting up an instant email from a realtor and a realty company. I would get about 3-6 homes that fit in my parameters every morning at 7:00 am. I watched the pricing, location and condition of all sub $100k homes in a certain geographic area of Milwaukee. I visited the homes that piqued my curiosity. Many were awful. I was smitten by a cheap 800sf house for $34k. It was the first thing I looked at and it had sat for 180 days. I passed on it thinking “If I just found this that fast I can’t wait to find cheaper/better ones!” (More later) I would visit the home and look for a neighbor. Don’t be scared of them. They WANT that house to sell to someone. Ask them about it. They will happily tell you everything you need to know without going inside. I found an home that was so bad it will eventually be RAISED. It had 3 stories an the top looked like a scene from the movie “Seven”. No one had been upstairs in 40 years! The 2nd floor was so warped if you dropped a ball it would travel around the house and probably come back to you. The foundation was crumbling. You could see it had problems from the street. I found mushrooms that looked like candles in the basement of another. Carpet is a breeding ground once wet.

First time homebuyer credit expires Nov 09’ Hurry?

I had no money. “How can I become an investor without any $?” you ask. You don’t. You get your shit straight and save. My goal was: pay off my car $8k, my CC $1,100 and have $10k in CD’s by Christmas 2009. I began in April. All the while I learned my market and how to buy/what was a deal. I paid off my CC. I paid off my car. I saved. I sold my car and bought a cheap and easily fixable car. I had a check for $10k in my hand after handing the keys to my baby to the new owner. I put it into the bank. I had reached my goal 6 months early. Now I wanted to hit $20k before the end of the year. I did side work on cars. My co worker was sick of her car and was going to trade it in for $500. It was a pink 95’ ford escort. It ran like a top with 75k. I bought it. I listed it for $1k. Sold it 2 days later for a $500 profit. Lesson: A $500 car that runs is always a $1k car that runs. I hit $20k.

Jan 2010:
I bought a 2002 F250 supercab for $5700 from a roofing company. You cant do your own work on a house in an econo car. It I submitted an offer on a duplex that was going for $59k in a nice area. It was too cheap and someone else bought it for over ask full cash deal. I was on the right track. I could identify the houses that the “real investors” wanted. I had a 802 credit score at my peak. I could not compete with cash offers. I got pre approved for an $80k home with 25% down, 30yr fixed at 5.1% through my bank. I wanted to put the 25% down. I had my parameters set and I went back to work looking.

I would run into the same people checking out the houses I was over and over again. I could tell interest on a house that had been on the market for a day by checking the snow around the house. Lots of footprints = lots of interest.

February 2010

First day back from a short vacation a cheap home crosses my email within my desired geographic area. $59k. 4 bedroom 1 bath, 2.5 car detached 1200 sf. I check it out. It is 4 blocks from my current residence (duplex living). There are LOTS of footprints in the snow. “Pro” investor I lost the other house to is there. I am about to lose another one. I tour it with my agent. I write a full ask offer that night.

They get 10+ offers at asking. The previous owner defaulted on a $158k loan. Realistically, homes in retail condition like this are selling for $135k. This home needs a bathroom and some updating. One of the 4 bedrooms is a hinderance to the upstairs as the wall is too close to the stairs. It is a 1923 bungalow. I need to come with my best and final offer if I want this house to be mine.

Now…I would not allow myself to fall in love with bricks and mortar. If it didn’t make sense financially, it wasn’t a deal. I asked myself: after having seen all the over priced crap on the market for almost 12 months, what would this house NOT be a deal at? ANSWER: I could pay $70k for it and it would still be a good value to me.

I got the house for $70k.

Fannie May sucks. Continued in a while. I need to go outside and enjoy the day.

Milwaukee!!!
Terrific, terrific story! Can’t wait for the next chapter! This is EXACTLY what NEWBIES should be reading and doing.

You get my award for Quote of the Week: “HOW CAN I BECOME AN INVESTOR WITH NO MONEY? YOU DON’T. YOU GET YOUR **** STRAIGHT AND YOU SAVE”.

I liked how you focused on ONE AREA near your home. You saw those investor footsteps in the snow…

Now you’re the one who is going to leave footsteps. Great job, Milwaukee.

Furnishedowner

I’ve been checking out this site for about two months now, and I finally decided to register after reading this post.
I just wanted to say thank you and I can’t wait to hear more of your story (good and bad!). I’ve spent the last month reading real estate books (which are textbook in prose) so it’s nice to read something inspiring, yet truthful and honest. I’m hoping you start a trend so other investors post their stories!

The next step in your journey begins with you answering a very simple question…

HOW MANY PEOPLE…RIGHT NOW… KNOW YOU WANT TO BUY HOUSES???

Sounds simple enough right???

DO NOT disregard this little GEM!!!

The answer to that question will determine your FUTURE SUCCESS!!!

The way you do this now is OK…But as your story proclaimed you are missing out on properties to CASH BUYERS and HIGHER OFFERS because EVERYONE and their BROTHER knows these homes are for sale…The way you stop that is by having the SELLERS call you FIRST!!!

EVERY SINGLE person you meet should get a business card that has this written on it in BIG LETTERS.

I PAY BIG FINDERS FEES FOR OLD, OUT DATED HOUSES…Do you know someone with a house like that??? Get me their info and If I buy that house you get a MINIMUM of $2000 CASH, the better the deal the MORE YOU GET!!!
Call me TODAY for details at 555 555 5555

The key to this is EYEBALLS!!! Right now you have 2 (YOURS) looking for houses…You want to get HUNDREDS out there LOOKING for you!!!

EXPLAIN to people what you want…TELL THEM exactly what you want to buy…Hand them a STACK of your cards and here’s what you say to them…

“Want to know my favorite part of doing this?? It’s HANDING that finders fee check to someone that finds me a house…It’s my favorite because on THAT DAY I just recruited a person that now KNOWS, I DO EXACTLY what I SAY I will do!! And at that point they become MACHINES…MONEY MAKING MACHINES…I’ve handed people $10,000 checks for just FINDING me a home that I purchased…They RISKED NOTHING, they SPENT NOTHING and now they are on FIRE to find me another one. The DAY I hand you that first check is just the beginning…At that point you know it’s REAL, You know I’ll come through, then the fun REALLY starts!”

The key here is the STORY…People LOVE a good story.

I also make it a point to hand that check over to the finder in the most crowded area I can find…Preferrably their OFFICE or WORK during LUNCH when they’re surrounded by FRIENDS…I say this…“Hey John, I know you’re busy so I’ll make this quick…Here’s that check I promised you for finding me that house on Main St…It’s for $5000. Just check it for me and make sure they spelled your name right.” Hand the check to him and…

LEAVE!!!

At that lunch…YOU JUST RECRUITED THE ENTIRE OFFICE!!!

Make sure you leave a STACK of cards with “John” for his co-workers!!!

The only topic discussed in that office for the next week will revolve around HOW “John” found you that house…Make sure you coach JOHN on what to say…I always set this up BEFORE doing it with my contact…Most people on the receiving end of $5000 don’t really care HOW the delivery takes place, and I’m honest with them about WHY I want it done like this.

Congrats Milwaukee,

I had to register here because I am in the same situation as you. Its funny because I have been searching for the last couple of months looking for real estate investment info that pertained to my area. I am 26 and also in Milwaukee. Currently I am renting and am starting the process of finding a deal on a duplex or older home. I live over in the Story Hill neighborhood off of Bluemound near Miller Park. I like the area and would like to find something arround here but it hurts to see all of these 100 year old houses selling for $180k. I know I can find better and just need to keep my search up and continue reading everything I can find.

I also took the Real Estate class at a local community college in 2008 but never took the test because I had a pretty decent job at the time and I was scared off by the market shifting along with seeing a friend who could barely make ends meet as a realtor. I have saved about $15,000 right now and have little debt besides two student loans that I have paid down pretty far. It would be nice to talk to you sometime to get more advice on finding something like you did in the area.

It’s a good feeling to inspire. FDJake has been one of a few around here I tend to listen too very intently. I wrote my synopsis to get people over that “I don’t know how to start” feeling.

I will post PART 2 in a day or so.

Trev;

I can show you a house I have been watching near me to show you what to look for. Keep in mind we share a zip code.

That would be great, don’t worry im not ready to move on anything until they reinstate the tax credit.

I’m a noob who’s been lurking around the message board for a while just soaking up all the knowledge I can before I make any posts of my own, but this was great! Any updates?

Hey Milwaukee, great stuff. You get an “A” for Action. No whining, no excuses, just a whole lot of action…love it.

FDJake took the words right outta my head…I hope you’re starting to see a pattern: Listed deals go quick! If it’s in the MLS the whole world knows it’s for sale, hence the footprints. However when you MARKET for deals you’re sure to run across UNLISTED deals where there is little to no competition. That’s where your best deals will be.

Additionally, may I suggest you don’t get blinded with just trying to wholesale junker houses. I see so many new people fall into that trap. Seller financing/sub-to/options etc are actually more profitable than wholesaling and are actually easier to do, however they require a bit more knowledge and studying to truly understand. Wholesaling is easy to learn but rather difficult to do, and seller financing is rather difficult to learn but easy to do. And would you believe for every wholesale deal out there, there are probably 10 seller financing/option deals.

This is the leap so many newbies never take…they say, “I want to start out wholesaling a few junkers, then I’ll worry about the other strategies” or worse yet they never even learn there are other strategies. Therefore many potential deals pass them right on by, they just can’t see them.

Keep up the good work…you’re on your way.

i have o to put down on a house, and i still have 0 down to put on a house, all the guru’s say there are ways to put o down on a house!!!

Hey that’s a cool story. I think many of us real estate investors get a similar start and have to give up what we have to get the money so we can invest in our first property. I sold my wife’s car so we could have enough money for a very small down payment on a totally trashed property. The previous owner had a pet mouse he kept in his pocket whenever he left the home. The house was absolutely disgusting. I didn’t have enough money to pay for the house and pay a contractor… so I got a repair book from Home Depot and went to town reading how to fix things… then I applied what I read on my house.

We had one credit card with $10k limit. We quickly spent the entire $10k on materials to fix the home. Within 30 days the home was completely remodeled and we moved in. Then we got our first mortgage payment notice in the mail from the bank. Wow. We’d spent all the money we had so paying that first mortgage payment was extremely difficult. I started freaking out because I had no clue how we could make the next months mortgage payment. I put the home on the market as a For Sale By Owner and used a trick I had heard about at a seminar I had attended just before we bought the house. Within the next 30 days we had a buyer who closed on the house.

Whew! The second mortgage payment was included in the payout amount owed to the bank. After paying off our credit card and all expenses associated with the house we had more than $20k in profits. I did this while going to school with Marketing student’s who were getting jobs for $20k a year upon graduation. So they were going to make $20k a year working for somebody else, and I made over $20k in 60 days working for myself.

I got so excited I immediately went out and bought 5 more houses within the next couple of weeks.
It’s not easy at first, it does take sacrifice and effort. It can be scary, but the rewards are so worth it! I encourage everyone to stick with it and make your dreams happen! This is definitely a business that allows your financial dreams to come true.

Then you need to ask yourself what are the gurus telling you to do that you’re not doing.

I’ve never put a down payment on a deal and I’ve done probably a couple dozen deals.