Don't be Average...

This is one long, rambling post-- enjoy it…

If you’ve read Rich Dad, Poor Dad-- then you know…

Rich Dad’s advice to the average investor: Don’t be average.

The average real estate investor owns four or fewer properties over their lifetime. The average investor is a sole proprietor, or a general partnership, and the fact is most of you are planning to be average, or worse.

Do you know exactly where you want to go-- do you know how your story ends? Do you have the entity that’s right for you? Do you have a team? A network of other active and successful real estate investors? Are you haphazard, scattered, disorganized, and inconsistent?

Until you know exactly who you are, what you want to want, and what you’re willing (and not willing) to do to achieve it. Unless you are disciplined, focused, organized, and consistent, you will not succeed.

So, how do you do it? Start with an objective. My suggestion is to scrap “goal setting” for the time being-- we’ll get to that, but for now I would suggest you picture in your mind the exact life you want in as much detail as possible. Start with something I call your “Ideal Day Essay”.

On your absolute perfect day, what does your life look like. Imagine you just woke up on your perfect day–

WHERE did you wake up?

What surrounds you?-- be very detailed-- Did you wake up between satin sheets, or in a sleeping bag hanging off the side of a mountain?

What are the textures in the space around you, what colors greet you?

What smells do you smell? What’s the air like? Is a warm, humid, salty ocean breeze blowing through your open air palace in the Pacific?

Maybe it’s warm, dry air, with a slight smoke smell from the wood fired stove heating your north woods cabin. Be detailed.

Now that you’re up- what will you do, first? Who will be with you? The idea is to complete this day in as much detailed description as possible. This works, people-- a few of you will do this now, and if you do, I’m convinced you’ll have it.

Now that you’ve written your ideal day essay, write your plan. How is it you’ll accomplish these things? Forget about Rich Dad for just a minute. I don’t want you to compromise a thing, but understand this-- the crew on a yacht, and house sitters in the carribean get the same views as the owners of the properties. You don’t necessarily have to have $100,000,000 to make your perfect dream day come true. There are perfect J.O.B.s for some people. I know some pretty damn miserable rich people that can literally do anything they please at any moment of the day or night. OTOH, I know a guy who is a private chef for a celebrity that you all would recognize. He works hard, his client can be very demanding, but he’d never do anything else. He has read rich dad, and invests in RE passively because he knows he can’t do it forever-- so he’s wise about it. But he is happy with a 1099.

But I digress-- plan it out. How are you going to get to the point where you can live that ideal day-- where your ideal day is the norm for most days-- doesn’t mean you do the same thing. Maybe your idea is having a motorcoach w/ a driver. You wake up in a different place every day, and while you’re sleeping at night, your driver drives the night away to the next stop. The point is – how can you get to the point where your ideal day can happen painlessly as often as you like?

As you’re making your plans, be aware of what you like and do not like to do. Be congnizant of the fact that you may be unwilling to do certain things. It doesn’t mean they don’t need to be done, or that they won’t get done-- it just means that maybe you aren’t the best person to do them. If you like dealing with sellers and negotiating, then you’ll be the birddog. Maybe you can’t stand dealing with sellers, but you’re great with details, and communicating with professional office types-- you’ll submit the short sale packages to the banks, and stay on top of them.

If you really want to invest in real estate, your ultimate goal, however, should NOT be to be a real estate investor. Your goal should be to BUILD A BUSINESS that happens to invest in real estate.

A business starts with an entity. I’m going to be blunt here-- if you’re a sole proprietor, have a general partnership, etc. you’re making a mistake. It’s a beginner mistake, and one some beginners never recover from. Just don’t do it. Create an entity. Get yourself some legal protection (I recommend a Professional Real Estate Multiple Entity Structure, or PREMES-- which I can tell you how to find out about if you’re interested) but the bottom line is that you need to get with an attorney and/or CPA and get an entity structure in place.

Choose ENLIGHTENED professionals who understand what you’re trying to accomplish. Figure out HOW you’re going to accomplish all this, and build a great team arround you for that purpose. Choose your associations deliberately. Join groups like www.wcrt.org or www.ccia-info.com or www.chicagoreiclub.com and make friends and garner team members who are going the same direction.

DOCUMENT everything that you do. From beginning to end, in as much detail as possible, you should be documenting what you do. The reason for this is simple-- you’re creating job descriptions because you won’t always be the one doing everything.

NOW set goals. This is the point where you set your goals, and mark your milestones. I recommend that you take time to set long term (10 years) short term (1 year), and even daily, weekly, and monthly markers. If you consistently miss your daily goals, you won’t hit your weekly goals, if so, you won’t hit your one year and so on.

Be SPECIFIC in your goals, and don’t forget to make certain all the goals you set are in line with what you want, and who you are.

WRITE GOALS DOWN and keep them where you can read them. I recommend reading your goals once each day.

What you’ll probably find out is that you’ll overestimate what you can do in a year, and you’ll underestimate what you can do in ten years.

DO NOT TAKE SHORT CUTS or COMPROMISE in any way.

What you will also discover is that the easy way might not be the right way, but the right way is ALWAYS the easy way.

Neither “Just Do It” nor “figure it all out first” is good advice.

Never stop learning, but understand that at some point you need to stop being a real estate investigator, and start being a real estate investor.

Stay focused, but tweak the plan. Don’t be afraid to change course when you need to. Decide your destination slowly, carefully, and methodically-- but make course changes to get there quickly, and decisively. FINALLY, take Frank McKinney’s advice:

GIVE IT TIME! The number one trait of failures is they quit. Many quit right before they would have seen their efforts pay off. An overnight success takes about 20 years. Hang in there!!!

I hope all this rambling helps. That’s my intent. I’m working on something else right now-- a kind of a workshop based on the general philosophies I’ve expressed here-- I’ll probably come back and tweak this post numerous times-- so if you like it the way it is-- cut and paste it and save it.

Also, this is a discussion board, not a pontification board. Let’s hear what you have to say. I want feedback, contributions, new ideas, etc. on how to succeed.

My main objective is to help people achieve total financial freedom without worry, compromise, or waiting years and years. Basically, you should be free from financial worry, have the freedom to have integrity about who you are-- to live a life congruent with the person that is fundamentally YOU (most people weren’t meant for a life in the cubicle-- it’s a compromise they make), and you need to be free SOON. Two to five years. Maybe you won’t have your dream-- that ideal day in five years, but you should be FREE and freely persuing it in that time frame.

If you’ve read this mess this long-- God bless you. I sincerely hope it helps.

Long yet inspiring!

You said we could add thought’s…

The main key to anything in life is to really look at the people that surround you in your everyday life if you truly want to know where you are going to be in a year. LOOK AT THEM you will be in the same position they are. Now this could be for the better or for the worse JUST LOOK.

Surround yourself with like-minded individuals!

When I was 19 and just out of college I befriended a homeless man. A year later I too was homeless!

When I was 20 and Homeless I got in touch with a friend that was very well off… And the rest is history now ten years later I no longer have to really work!

Why is that because WE LIVE IN THE LAND OF THE FREE?

That is so true and so not true all in one!

Lets face the fact’s on that you can jump out of bed tomorrow and say I QUIT!!! And run away from everything your job, House payment, car note whatever. And go live on a yacht or in a mansion like Paul brought up!! BS

We do live in the land of the free. And once you are financially free you can do what ever you want!!

YOU ARE NOT FREE UNTIL YOU ARE FINANCIALLY FREE!!!

So what are you going to do to change that?

I would start by analyzing who your friends truly are do they have the same hope’s for the future or are they drinking buddies? After that make changes where you see fit.

Why do I spend so much time here? It is to help those that want the change and to stay away form all of those that are probably sitting at the Bar right now or working 12 hours a day 6 days a week to make ends meet that will not accept the fact the only way to make a change is to do it yourself…

8 out of 10 millionaires make it in Real estate!

Your chances of getting bit by a shark are better then winning the lottery! Now do to the fact I live in Colorado and nowhere near any oceans if I want to make it I better do Real Estate!!

So if you are sitting there waiting for your winning numbers to pop up every week do me a favor DO NOT GO IN THE WATER!!

And just like everything else in this world it is not your market it is your marketing!

KID WHEN YOU NEED THE CROWD THE TICKETS ARE HARD TO SELL!! BUT STILL YOU CAN LEAD THE CROWD IF YOU CAN GET UP AND YELL!!! (remember that song?)

                           Robb

Robb,
Great talking to you yesterday! I know we’ll be doing some great things in Chicago. It will be nice to see you in February. If you’re interested in some big time inspriation that can’t be posted on an internet discussion board-- check out this event:

http://www.wcrt.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1321

Not selling anything-- it all goes directly to charity; but it comes with a priceless benefit-- getting to meet Frank McKinney.

I think you mentioned you’d be busy in January, but just in case, this would be a great first meeting point.

I love the motivation, but on one point where you were talking about drinking buddies, rings so true for me.

I know I need new friends that are into more than Xbox and yeagermeister. But I live in Detroit and it’s tough to find someone that even knows that real estate is the way to go.

How would you propose I over come this type of issue?
Any comments are suggestions are FULLY appreciated.

Thank you.

I think you being here answers that question. They may not be friends across the street but eveyone here will help you on your way.

Also look for REI Clubs/meetings to go to.

Thank you. I’ll take that advice to heart right now and get started, asking questions that is.

Do a Google { rei club detroit }

Find out what is close to you. If there is more than one, check them all out and pick the one you like best. :rotate:

That is what I did in my town, and I am glad I did.

I hope this helps
Bruce

I’ve got a contact for you from the Detroit area. Guy’s name is Jared Pomranky-- he runs the Detroit chapter of the WCRT.

“Get yourself some legal protection (I recommend a Professional Real Estate Multiple Entity Structure, or PREMES-- which I can tell you how to find out about if you’re interested)”

You made the above comment in your posting. I am interested in learning more about creating a Professional Real Estate Multiple Entity Structure, or PREMES. I am a beginner so I need you to provide me with as much detail as you can.

The basic legal setup I use is that I hold properties in an LP and my LLC acts as the GP of the LP.

The simple explanation for doing it this way is that it creates a unique protection from frivolous lawsuits with specific reference to the charging order.

A charging order is what a person obtaining a judgement against the LP would get. It effectively allows them to step into the LP (with no management control) and collect distributions just like any limited partner would until the judgement is satisfied.

The interesting thing about an LP is that the general partner (my LLC in this case) decides whether or not to make distributions. BUT, an LP is “pass through” for tax purposes (might not be the correct terminology-- I’m not a lawyer, or a CPA) and what happens is that whether or not there are distributions made, partners pay taxes on the profits in the LP. This is called “phantom income” when taxes are paid even though there has been no distribution.

So, basically you hand the judgement creditor a tax bill. See how long they put up with it. Odds are, they’ll get tired of that fairly quickly. Then my C Corp, the entity I have set up to handle property management, marketing, and other services-- offers to buy the judgement for pennies on the dollar, and then what happens is the C corp makes a highly favorable settlement with my LP :wink:

It’s complicated. I’m not giving legal advice, financial advice or anything of the sort. If you need that sort of advice-- get it from a professional (which I am not).

The entire thing is explained on a relatively inexpensive program-- I think it’s about $97 bucks? Anyway-- if you’re interested, check the Investor Resources tab on my site. I’m pretty sure it’s still up there.

Hello Rontayan I am also in Detroit in your same situation trying to find like minded individuals to network with.

If everything go right I will be closing on my first rental property in a month. I am looking to build a network of like minded individuals that i can ask questions and i can pass on good info onto also.

I’m your man on that you can email me

I don’t have a whole lot of knowledge but I do have alot of contacts that I have made over the past 6 months.

I hope to be of sometype of help.

You all need to arrange a meeting with Jared. I’ll see when the next WCRT-Detroit meets up. Like minded people together to mastermind and support one another- NO SALES AGENDA.

Jared’s website is http://progressiveresultsinc.com/

I find this post very encouraging and uplifting. The problem I’m facing is that I live in Boston where real estate is very pricey and I am not sure if there is a good support around here.

Angela
look at http://www.reiclub.com/real-estate-clubs/Massachusetts.html

I guess I’m a little late but this is a great post!! I to have found it hard to find people to want to do anything but the bar scene, I mean they are gainfully employed but, is that all there is to getting ahead?NO!! I’ve been reading this board for a few months and feel confident that I will get a great deal on my first purchase. Thanks everyone and Merry Christmas!!!

Hey Paul, yeah this was windy but good reading…you a hit a good point about networking with like minded people. In my area there are plenty of investors just not any re clubs. I have thought about starting one but I am too new to this…wouldn’t know where to start…

thanx

elo

Well, I am from the “Windy City” which was named not for the wind mother nature produces, but for the wind our politicians produce (though I am not in politics) ;D

I might be able to give you some pointers on starting a network where you live. It is both easier, and more difficult than people think-- meaning the things you think would be hard are easy, and the things you think will be no sweat turn out to be more involved than you think.

I believe the saying “Vote early/Vote often” was coined by the Dems in Chicago…

Keith