I have a HELOC on my primary residence that I am going to buy a property with. I plan on rehabing and selling. After I buy the property with the HELOC and do some minor renovations, could I go back to the bank and get a HELOC on the new property that I can use to pay off the HELOC that I bought it with? The advantages of this being that I dont pay any closing costs for buying the property with the HELOC. Then instead of getting a conventional mortgage with the associated closing costs that go along, just get a HELOC that shouldnt have closing costs. Does this sound right or is it wishful thinking
With good credit and full documentation this should be fairly easy to do.
If you’re going to sell the new property after renovating it, why would you need to obtain a HELOC on it? The proceeds from your sale should be more than enough to pay your existing HELOC that you used to purchase the investment property.
Also, I believe conventional lenders have at least a 6 month title seasoning before they lend on that property so you wouldn’t be able to get a HELOC for at least 6 months after your purchase. I would check into that first.
If you're going to sell the new property after renovating it, why would you need to obtain a HELOC on it?The only reason that I would want to get a HELOC on the property is to be able to pay off the original HELOC so it will be free'd up to be able to buy more properties.
I should elaborate a bit more on my situation. The HELOC that I would be using the buy the house is on my fathers residence but we have an agreement that I am able to use it . I am 18 and starting to build my credit. My question is what would be easier to get, a heloc on the property to buy to pay off the first heloc, or a no doc-- no prepayment penalty–no seasoninng requirement conventional loan. Assume my credit would be 680 when I do the deal.
Offering “all cash” to a homeowner usually gets you a better deal. I would probably pull the equity out and purchase it all cash without dealing with conventional lending. How long do you think you’ll be holding the property until it sells? If you’re doing a quick flip, then there wouldn’t be any reason to get a HELOC on a property you’re going get out of immediately. On the other hand, if you plan on holding it for a while, then you can do a cash-out refi and pay your father’s HELOC off, especially since HELOCs are adjustable and rates, as well all know, are not going down.
I guess your short or long term exit strategy would determine how to best structure your situation.
Your right there would be no reason to get a heloc on the property on the property if im doing a short term rehab. The only reason would be if another deal came along that I wanted to do the all cash method with and I needed to free up the heloc.
In that case could anyone offer input on what the terms are on a No Doc, No Seasoning, No Prepayment penalty loan with 680 credit and 80% ltv
Forget, the HELOC and do it with no money down. 100% financing
Most rehab lender will do 65 to 80 ARV (After Repair Value)
Here is the calculation:
Offer= (ARV x 75%) - (Repairs + Holding + Closing cost)
Note: if you want low closing or no closing cost will require higher rate.
440,000(ARV) X 75%= 340,000 .
Total cost 40,000
340,000 - 40,000 = 300,000 Offer
Some lender max at 80% due to borrower cash. If you had gotten a higher % of ARV, you would not have to put the cash. That is leverage. Keep your money in reserve. I would keep just as emergency to cover my ass if the property will not move. Pad the repair a little. You pull the wall; suddenly you have water damage behind the wall.
440,000 -370,000 = $ 70,000 profit- Ok
- Purchase property .Take loan out to do remodel. Harder to do some lender require seasoning of title.
2.) Rehab loan
3.) Purchase option. Locate your buyer first. Do this before looking for property to flip.
Here is a post I post in a real estate forum:
Sorry for any typo Keith:
Sorry, for the late reply. See how I sold you guys. I throw a value out there and increase that value by saying for free. Same principle. Here is how you find tenant buyers.
Yes magnetic car sticker will work. a few leads.
1-800 -homes- make the numbers so stupid a monkey could remember.
KISS- Keep it stupid simple. Yes on you magnetic sign on the car.
A website that says How to buy your dream home as little as 3%-5% down even with bad credit. Call to find what private investors won’t tell you. Limited offer! You have to have to have time value to make people act. Like a child. You give him one small taste of candy one piece at time.
Place small ads like this on the internet in forums or classified ads. With phone numbers.
Put flyer display with business card in laundry mat.
That says the same thing but you also add more value… save 6 % on your next house. Call today for more info. 6% offers expires soon must act now… keep change the date for you next set.
Think like a renter… where they hanging out at do. Coffee shop etc… Get the idea. Always be selling and closing.
What newspaper they read. Home buying magazine and news papers, and home publication magazine for renters. Do not have to be fancy… 3 small lines will do. Put your code into each marketing piece. If you can’t track it, you can’t measure your progress and growth. Ask the client, which marketing piece they called off of. What made you call me instead of a realator.They probably say the commission part.
The cheapest is referrals. Do you know anyone like your self that would like to seize the opportunity? They at least know 2 o3 people. And those 2 or 3 know other people. Get the idea.
Wedding home show.
People go to find gowns, flowers.jewerly, and caterer. Etc… What is the next step after marriage… a house…a car… then kids… gets the idea…
Now remember most American are reading at an 8th grade education… Do not use BIG words.
Give an e-book about testimonals…Tell the story or joke… get them to come back for the climax or punchline.Always be selling and closing. When you were a kid you work your Mom and Dad. If you didn’t get what you want… you cry…That is closing your parents.
Try this for now, because if I give you to much info, your brain might over load… Post this some where so you can visualize .Put a car or a house next to these items… Hell even put your kids next to get you motivate to take action, but at least take action. Now people with bad credit will be in next class schedule… someone has to remind me… too much business with all loans for hard money, commercial…etc… To may request… Thanking for attending Real Estate 101.Good night boys and girls… Where is my apple?:0)