Advice to a newbe

A local girl asked me for help getting started wholesaling Real Estate, do you think my advice was to harsh?

Kylee,

The best way to get started is to get started, take action, find houses, look at hundreds and even thousands, talk to sellers and buyers, research prices , drive neighborhoods.

I made so many frikin mistakes, I had several more experienced investors tell me I shud get out of this business. That is exactly what I needed to hear. It made me 100 times more determined.

This is my 3rd year & the first year I’ve made over 100 Grand, I went thru some dry spells that lasted for 4-5 months, if I had quit, and I thought about it, what wud I have and where wud I be now?

This business is 10% know how and 90% mind set, I spend a lot of money and time reading and learning motivation and Self help.

99.9% of people give up, you gotta be sorta insane to keep at it when 99% of the houses you look at are not deals. Day after day of rejection and failure, But when that 1% pays off, it makes up for all the hard work and disappointments.

Let’s make some MONEY…

Rando

LOL, I get those kinds of requests.

That’s very solid feedback Rando.

Wholesaling is enormously competitive in my area. All the wannabies are led to believe it’s the ‘no-money and no-credit’ way to get started as an investor.

Sure, but finding and tying up deals requires something …like time, dedication, wasted time, gas money, postage, more gas money, emailing, writing, waiting, experience, thinking, negotiating …and the list of time and money consuming things goes on.

That trips up the unicorn chasers sitting in their underpants.

Frankly, the ones that mostly believe this, are the lazy people. They always confuse “no down payments” with “no money to invest.” Well, there’s “no money to invest” and there’s “no down payment.” Two different things.

I can invest without down payments routinely. However, it costs money to find and sift for the sellers who’ll bend over and give me these deals. And what happens when we find a deal worth $30,000 in equity profits, but the seller is three payments behind? Gotta have some money to make money on that deal.

It seems that the people I can help most, are the ones already working at it. They ask the really good questions.

Otherwise, I get emails from people asking loaded questions like, “How can I find motivated sellers?”

Never mind, it’s like asking a brain surgeon, “How you you do brain surgery?” There are so many facets involved that it requires a LOT of explaining and study, if not researching the market.

So, I qualify the newbie by asking them,
Me: What have you done so far to find them.
Them: Well, I haven’t really done anything yet.
Me: Why not?
Them: Because I didn’t want to waste my time doing the wrong things.
Me: So, you don’t want to waste your time doing the wrong things, but you’re happy to waste mine making up the difference?

I’m not actually that harsh, but there’s no free lunch. Either we need to buy some training, or we need to go out and train ourselves. The “training ourselves” is a lot more dangerous and risky, but it IS doing something, if not creating a lot of great questions.

But asking for free seminars is pretty much a dead end.

In the past, I blindly suggested to newbies that they find and attend local reiclub-type meetings, and hook up with seasoned investors, to ask for their help. Today I ask, “Where has that ever worked?” My bad.

I’ve found that few active investors can teach what they know, or have the patience. Others aren’t that interested in creating competitors, or starting from scratch with a bunch of newbies. There’s too many of them, and there’s no money in it. At best, it’s a distraction, and at worst a nuisance.

Never mind the most newbies are merely curious, and not serious. Once they discover there’s work involved, or money required …they’re gone on to the next shiny, no-money, no-work, and-no-effort object.

I probably sound negative.

Anyway, great post!

Hi Darrell here and I’m a new be as well that is some great advice on here but I still like the limit my mistakes even more by nice having someone to watch and follow and get a general idea better than just going out alone and making mistakes is there anybody out there who like to do a team upfrom what I understand there isn’t no coaching segment out here so we have to like lean on one anotherso who would like to pay foFulfordr it I’m talk ing in the mic so the last part is saying who would like to help me

Darrel, can we be honest? Who wants to help someone who posts a garbled, nonsensical message, with no punctuation, and ends with “who would like to help me.”

Answer: Nobody.

If you want help, offer some benefit. Don’t be a mooch. And figure out a way to communicate clearly.

Thank you so much for this thread and especially for your honesty. I am one of those newbies (lol). I attended a workshop, paid $4,500 for a program during Spring, didn’t get started right away because Life Happened. I recently ended up spending another $3,500 to have a distant trainer work with me one on one whom I speak with on a weekly basis for the next 8 weeks. So far, it has been three weeks and he makes it sound very simple. However, it is really not that simple at all. It takes money, time, effort, persistence, drive, motivation, inspiration and a few glasses of wine to maintain a little sanity when things are not falling in place. If you are looking for the no money down, wholesale deals / assignment contract I see that it takes a load of patience and some good skills in communicating with various people.

One another note - I have been working on finding investment clubs in my area, I called the only ten in and near my area including using Meetup.com. It is challenging when no one returns your call to provide information about their next meeting. Being confused about the no response, I informed my trainer he says, just keep calling. Finally, I ran across this site and found one club organizer who actually answered the phone.

My last road block has been building a “Buyers List” - this too sounds easy but it has it’s challenges. I’ve paid money to purchase two lists and hopefully this will help me outside of using the massive Craigslist. Although I am feeling a little foggy, not so confident and a little lost, I am looking forward to learning more and making smart deals. I’m excited about being involved in real estate investment. Thank you for post like these because it is taking some hard work so far.

New Investor

PS - You’ll be asked to pay fees to attend the club meetings as well

I can understand a big part of the problem, I was never told how difficult it wud be. If the Guru’s had told us how difficult it was going to be we wud have told them to shove that blue pill up their asses.
But then again, it’s a heck of a lot easier than working a full time job.
I have tried to help people many times, it’s seriously frustrating when they wont even give it a half ass effort. One girl that called me had spent $14,000 on her credit cards behind her husbands back on Real Estate one on one tutoring, and was asking for my help. I explained what she needed to do, the Craig’s List Ads, direct mail, recruiting bird dogs, driving neighborhoods and handing out door knob hangers and talking to other Investor/wholesalers & even handing out business cards, after a few seconds of silence she says, “That’s too much work” That’s not what my instructor says to do, he says to get my buyers list first. This girl never did do any deals.

I could give dozens of more similar examples, and I thought I was a screw up. That says a lot for perseverance and focus.

So here is the magic formula rookies…
Never give up, Do something even if it’s wrong, Learn the business, keep learning how to improve yourselves with books, videos, pod casts etc.
And then when you get knocked down and stepped on like the bug you are, get angry, get back up and fight for what you want. If that don’t work, you can cry to your mommies or keep trying till you get it right.
Let’s make some Money…
Rando