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WOW! :shocked

I haven’t been on the Forums for quite some time and it looks like some things have changed. I like the Random Ramblings format, but this post is making my eyes bleed. It takes me back to two kids on the playground…the only phrase I didn’t see was , " Oh yeah!, I know I am but what are you?" Based on what I have read, FDJake has been the only one of the two that has ponied up most everything that has been requested and all Postive can do is nitpick petty discrepancies. We all know that there will be minor overruns when it comes to rehabbing. FDJake has admiited to some of those. Positive has yet to produce anything of substance. He/she has been asked time and time again, yet the only response is to redirect to some minor mundane discrepancy.

In another post there was a question about how you guys have time to invest when you spend all of your time on this forum bickering…I am curious too and would like (as I am sure everyone else would as well) to know the secrets to this.

I believe that both of you are probably awesome investors in your own right. Why not provide some helpful insight to those of us who are trying to get to your level.

Thank you in advance for your responses

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Fdjake,

REMEMBER, YOU are the SELF-PROCLAIMED expert here, right??? I’m the rookie and if I can see how BOGUS your numbers are, you don’t think the OTHER investors here see it??? Liquidity called you out on your tile numbers LAST YEAR when you posted it, when it was FRESH in your memory… and as we can see, the EXPLANATION THEN and the NUMBERS YOU PROVIDED as your EXCUSE then DID NOT work out…

COMMON SENSE would have DICTATED that you reconcile these issues for your own CREDIBILITY, but instead, YOU MADE IT WORSE… To show EVERYONE how ridiculous this NEW excuse is of “rounding”…

Any OTHER investors here ready to go on record and say that they “Round” $71,921 to $75,000???.. :biglaugh :banana :lol

ESPECIALLY after having REVIEWED the posts AND your file on a deal that supposedly SOLD???.. :bs

ROUNDING would be to say $71,921… I made $72K, NOT $75K, why not $80K or $100K, $ or $201K???.. after all it’s rounded up, right???.. LOL :bs And mind you, YOU are the SELF-PROCLAIMED expert with 20 years rehabbing experience…

Yes, let’s ALL learn something here…

P.S. - And to prove Fdjake WRONG AGAIN, even though he DID NOT KEEP his agreement on this, I will STILL post my 2 for 1 tonight or tomorrow morning, you know, the one Fdjake “GUARANTEED” I wouldn’t do… :bs

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Hammertime,

“Based on what I have read, FDJake has been the only one of the two that has ponied up most everything that has been requested and all Postive can do is nitpick petty discrepancies. We all know that there will be minor overruns when it comes to rehabbing. FDJake has admiited to some of those.”

Welcome to the discussion… “Petty discrepancies”??? a 4% ERROR of what you made is petty??? OK, then you can be the FIRST investor to go on record with FDjake assertion of “rounding” - Do you “round” $71,921 to $75,000???.. ESPECIALLY after having REVIEWED the posts AND your file on a deal that supposedly SOLD???..

“Positive has yet to produce anything of substance.”

If that were the case, Fdjake would not have the numbers he already has on my investment property… along with all the other information on it…

“He/she has been asked time and time again, yet the only response is to redirect to some minor mundane discrepancy.”

Hammertime, since you admittedly haven’t been here for quite some time, I answer each post POINT BY POINT, so what have I been asked “time and time again”?

BTW, I quote FDJAKE’s posts point by point BECAUSE he has been CAUGHT “modifying” his posts AFTER THE FACT and modifying OTHER peoples words from their POSTS in his attempts to mislead people… He can’t DO that if it’s quoted in other people’s posts…

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Nice OBSERVATION Hammertime!!!

NOTICE…Not a SINGLE NUMBER or PICTURE from Positive???

Like YOU SAID…The only SUBSTANCE here has been provide by ME!!!

I’ll apologize for the bickering…But as you noted…NOTHING OF SUBSTANCE has come from Positive…This is a TACTIC…It’s an ATTEMPT to move the conversation AWAY from the OBVIOUS fabrication he’s woven here…

I’ve spent a lot of time RELENTLESSLY asking the same questions OVER and OVER through an endless parade of DIVERSIONS…and because of that, Positive has let some information SLIP…I think he DIED when I started ADDING up the PARTIAL numbers he had used in previous posts…Once the numbers started looking bad for him…NOT A SINGLE DIGIT PROVIDED…

It’s OK…I didn’t expect him to ADMIT he really messed this up…After all, he’s been telling everyone here he’s a PRO REHAB CONTRACTOR…Come on??? NO WAY ON EARTH a REAL PRO would have run this MESS the way he has…NOT IN A MILLION YEARS!!! He knows how bad this looks…So he attempts to DIVERT attention from that…I enjoy this as it FURTHER strengthens my point that he is a complete LIAR!

Remember…Up until a few months ago all he was saying about this flip was…

“I did well on it”

“I made my money going in”

and MY all time FAVORITE…

“I’ll be into it for $37,000 when it finished”

When asked SIMPLE questions by OTHER members here about why he spends so much time HERE and not at his UNFINISHED FLIP…He proceeded to do a minute by minute break down of HIS time here VS the person who asked the question…That person…JUSTIN…Has PURCHASED, REHABBED, and RENTED 8 Properties since DECEMBER!!!:beer Obviously JUSTIN isn’t affected by whatever Postive has!!

So you’re NOT the first one to ask what’s going on here??? You’re obviously observant and didn’t buy into the BULLSH*T story we’re being fed. GOOD FOR YOU!!! That nose for BS will serve you well in your investment career.

I’ve spent some time here PRYING this information out of a guy who is INCAPABLE of admitting a mistake.

One other thing…Positive is CLEARLY NOT an awesome investor…He has completely SCREWED UP his ONE and ONLY flip and is OVER BUDGET and WAY, WAY over time…At this point it is OBVIOUS to EVERYONE what he’s doing here…YOU picked right up on it.

As for ME…I’ve flipped MULITPLE properties so far this year and have just signed on a property that should close in a few weeks.

I’ll let you know EXACTLY how this investment goes…I’ll even post some pictures of it!!! It’s a real DUMP but has good potential as a MONEY MAKER!!! The pictures should be great because I can DETAIL for you guy’s the stuff Postive MISSED on his property using THIS ONE as a reference…The things that LOOK minor but can add up to BIG NUMBERS in the end and I can show you how to PROFITABLY deal with them…Stay tuned, this WILL get GOOD!!

AS for my time…I look at properties every week…I work on marketing to home owners every week to FIND these properties BEFORE they go on the MLS. But as of right now…I’m in holding mode until this property closes…BUT…I’ve been kept entertained by attempting to get a SERIAL LIAR to come clean on his LOSER investment, and apparently MORE and MORE people here are SEEING what I’M SEEING!!! (and I also completely enjoy making him look like the FOOL he is!)

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Fdjake,

“NOTICE…Not a SINGLE NUMBER or PICTURE from Positive???”

First off… Hammertime can answer for himself, and you’ll notice he is NOT rushing to be the FIRST to back you up on your 20 year rehabbing experiece of “rounding” $71,921 to $75,000…

Dude, you are indeed pathetic… you have the sociopathic gall to criticize me for not giving YOU numbers or a picture that were CONDITIONAL on YOU providing answers to ALL your NUMBERS problems… You didn’t do it, and yet you still expect me to do it… LOL

Simply put, if I’ve not provided you a SINGLE NUMBER, how do explain in the same post teh $37K??? No, to be specific, what you are after are the REST of the numbers, which YOU KNOW and EVERYONE can use the search bar to find (remember, it’s YOU enemy, not mine - tells people all they need to know)… Now YOU want a picture that msq7163 asked for, right?

The pics and the REST of the numbers, that were conditional on YOU… that had to be DRAGGED out of you by a 2 for 1 offer of both…

And now that you’ve been THOROUGHLY embarrassed by your INABILITY, with 20 years rehabbing experience, of reconciling YOUR OWN NUMBERS, AFTER reviewing the post AND YOUR OWN FILE on the supposed sold property, and ANOTHER investor LIQUIDITY, who ALSO called you out LAST YEAR on your flawed numbers… :biglaugh :lol

Your credibility has been TOTALLY blown on this, Fdjake, so please continue with your desperate straw man arguments… :bs

In the meantime, I will post the rest of the numbers sometime tonight or tomorrow morning, ALONG with the pic that msq7163 requested, and you will ONCE AGAIN be PRoVEN WRONG…

You remember YOUR WORDS - you “GUARANTEED” everyone hear “no way, no how” was I going to post them… :bs

And ONCE again, your credibility will shot… and your word… WORTHLESS…

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AGAIN…

NOT A SINGLE DIGIT…NOT ONE!!

And MORE of the members here are NOTICING what the REAL PROBLEM IS…This guy is COMPLETELY INCAPABLE of dealing with REALITY!!!

The number he REFERS to ($37K) is EXACTLY the problem!!!

It’s NOT A REAL NUMBER!!! THAT’S THE ENTIRE POINT…It’s completely BULLSH*T…WE KNOW IT…and he ISN’T FOOLING a single person here.

This is APPARENT NOW TO EVERYONE HERE!!

[b]Someone’s credibility IS shot here!!!

COMPLETELY SHOT…and it’s…Y O U R S[/b]

When OTHER POSTERS start to ask the same QUESTIONS I’ve been asking and pointing out the same FLAWS in your arguements the GAME is OVER PAL.

I KNOW you won’t post your numbers…I predicted that…You can BULLSH8T yourself as to WHY??? But we all KNOW WHY???

You’ll look like a COMPLETE IDIOT…ESPECIALLY when you tell everyone here you’re a PRO REHABBER…GOD ALMIGHTY…What do you REHAB???
DOG HOUSES???

This job…YOUR JOB…Is a TESTAMENT TO COMPLETE AND UTTER INCOMPETANCE!!!

It’s been PROVEN…Beyond a shadow of a doubt…When OTHER posters start pointing this out…There’s no where left to hide…

PAL…You screwed this project up BEYOND BELIEF…and unfortunately for you and your family…THAT is YOUR REALITY!!!

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Yeah Fdjake,

And that’s why the INVESTORS here are LINING up to support your BS on “rounding”… :bs :biglaugh :lol they don’t want to publicly associated with it… that tells you ALL you need to know about your “rounding” excuse… never mind your BOGUS “tiling” numbers and DOM numbers…

So, now we know WHENEVER you post anything to do with NUMBERS (as was the case in other threads), we now have to “qualify” it… :rolleyes :bs :biglaugh :lol

What a GREAT thing to be KNOWN for Mr. 20 years rehabbing experience… :redface

“The GAME is OVER!!!”

Yep, because when I provide what YOU DIDN’T, it will be demonstrated ONCE AGAIN… you are full of it, your exuses bogus, and your word is WORTHLESS…

“The single number he REFERS to is EXACTLY the problem!!! It’s NOT A REAL NUMBER!!!”

Yes, we KNOW YOUR NUMBERS are not real… THAT’s the problem… we AGREE!!!

After all his dodging ON HIS OWN DEAL… he has the file out… OK, Fdjake… post the HUD-1 on your deal for the mutt kitchen!.. Let’s see the COMPLETE picture, shall we? Should take a few minutes to scan and post…

But, we ALL KNOW there is just about as much chance of THAT happening as YOUR OWN NUMBERS reconciling… IOW… ZIP, ZERO, NADA… :biglaugh :lol

So yes… GAME OVER junior…

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As of today…NOT A SINGLE POST on this thread has supported YOU…

NOT ONE…

On the other hand…NUMEROUS members have simply asked the same questions I’ve been asking and support ME…

You OBVIOUSLY don’t deal well with REALITY…We can ALL see this…It’s personality flaw of yours…You’ve even been asked if you ever let your WIFE win an argument. That says VOLUMES about you and your inability to deal with the REAL WORLD!!!

You got your rear end handed to you on this one…The NUMBERS say it ALL…YOU ASSUMED you were dealing with people who don’t KNOW what it costs to rehab a home…

FATAL MISTAKE!!!

Like buying a TEAR DOWN property when you have ONE DAY A WEEK TO WORK ON IT!!!

BAD DECISION MAKING at it’s FINEST!!!

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… sigh… Children children children, dont you see this conversation is just going in circles?

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Delusions of grandeur

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B I N G O !!!

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Speaking of bingo, I won $400 last night playing bingo at my towns little get-to-gether. Yay.

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Fdjake,

“NUMEROUS members have simply asked the same questions I’ve been asking and support ME”

SUPPORT you??? First off, re-read their posts… they were not asking what you were asking… and you’ll also notice that neither of them answered the questions posed to them, which INCLUDED supporting your NUMBERS… SILENCE… So what about it Fdjake “numerous” supporters?.. WHY the silence???

In addition, you seem to be OVERLOOKING the fact, Mr. 20 years rehabbing experience, that NONE of these “numerous” members are willing to publicly associate themselves with OR support YOUR NUMBERS AFTER YOU had the time to re-read the posts YOU WROTE AND your FILE on a supposedly SOLD property… Do you honestly think the OTHER investors don’t see this???

YOUR NUMBERS don’t add up as usual Fdjake… you can go on and on, but you can NEVER escape this… a ROOKIE in the real estate business who you are criticitzing about his first deal was able to PROVE with your OWN NUMBERS, which you revised THREE TIMES, that you were FULL OF IT and YOUR NUMBERS were BOGUS!!!

HOW FREAKING EMBARASSING!!!

At this point, I personally don’t even believe that you sold this property, because it just doesn’t add up… But you CAN PROVE ME WRONG easily by POSTING the HUD-1 on this property, junior… :deal :beer

what are you afraid of???

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P.S. - Working on setting up a photo account to post the pics… So ONCE AGAIN, Fdjake your “GUARANTEE” to EVERYONE on this site will be just like your words… WORTHLESS!..

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2 for 1… Part 1

msq7163…

“Positive, do you have any pictures of jobs you have done to prove that you are actually in the renovation business?”

We do full remodels (meaning usually more than one project per customer), but since Fdjake posted a kitchen, I wanted to keep it on the same level… I found one that is pretty much the same kitchen, meaning the same footprint… And you’ll notice, that the WINDOW is on the larger wall, the one Fdjake, who SAYS he is a FRAMER, didn’t know was CUSTUMARY pre-1990’s… Of course there are obvious differences, but they BOTH have the same BAD design, which FDjake LEFT IN PLACE… Lipstick on a pig… :rolleyes The kitchen to the right was refaced once before by someone who did not know what they were doing either… They are both BEFORE pics…

First thing you’ll notice is the date on my customers BEFORE pic on the right below (see left bottom) - 11-26-01, so it’s not just a recent one… The date came from one of those throw-away camera’s… before digital, we used to use the throw aways… 'course you had to remember to click on the date button…

http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d611b3127ccec7a8917bd1bd00000040O00AZNGbFs4auGQPbz4A/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/

http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d611b3127ccec7a88595d15900000040O00AZNGbFs4auGQPbz4A/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/

Now, here are some more of just the kitchen we did… before and after results…

http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d611b3127ccec7a9474d709c00000040O00AZNGbFs4auGQPbz4A/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/

BTW, the vines were the customer’s doing… Plants are very common in kitchens, but plastic vines, not so much…

http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d611b3127ccec7a94764f18500000040O00AZNGbFs4auGQPbz4A/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/

Now, we EXPANDED the above kitchen (right) and there are more pics, but these are most germane…

The REASON I asked Fdjake to provide the pricing for the 10’ x 10.5’ kitchen, was to show two things… He doesn’t KNOW how to do it without having SOMEONE ELSE estimate it for him (think about it - he was given EVERYTHING to price it out, and the only thing he had to price was the cabs and the countertops, and he was GIVEN the DETAILED info and sizes on both, and he STILL COULDN’T DO IT - Mr. 20 years rehabbing experience… :rolleyes)… The OTHER reason was to demonstrate REGIONAL PRICING differences, AND what I can get materials for versus what he can get it for…

The before and after pic BELOW is Refacing done right… In contrast to Fdjake’s painted cabs, where there were 12 MDF painted fronts that he paid an average of $30/each for (I get them for $10-20/each - $5 - $10 unfinished), a granite top, and plumbing, and he paid $3675 including the floor tiling… the below kitchen had 30 solid-wood fronts, refaced exteriors (this was a U-Shaped kitchen), granite tops AND backsplash, new solid-wood dovetail drawers and Blum undermount glides, and new plumbing… The CUSTOMER paid $6295 TOTAL for this project, and we were out in less than a week with two guys working on it…

The other thing to note, which is kind of hard to read - look at the before pic below, bottom right, and you can see the date 11-13-00 (it actually reads '00 11 13)… Also, Fdjake should note that the WINDOW is CENTERED on the larger wall…

http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9d611b3127ccec7a9c985f12300000040O00AZNGbFs4auGQPbz4A/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/

Now, to put it into perspective, on our FIRST investment property, we will spend LESS than Fdjake did for his kitchen at $3675… and we wll have NEW cabinets, a new Formica type with granite finish and matching bevel edge (three most common granite edges - Bullnose, Ogee and Bevel), etc…

What Fdjake doesn’t understand is that we MANUFACTURE custom cabinetry and furniture, countertops, etc… so we get materials for FAR LESS than he can touch them… as we can see with his MDF door purchase and TILING (which he NEVER explained HIS NUMBERS on that either, which ANOTHER investor - LIQUIDITY, questioned LAST YEAR, and he ALSO did not get an answer to his question), he pays RETAIL for his materials…

Even though we make our own cabinetry, we also purchase at BELOW Home Depot/Lowes pricing for new stock and semi-custom cabinets… and in this case, the custom cabinets that we normally manufacture are not warranted, and I can buy the others for less…

Part 1 of 2 COMPLETE… I had thought I could get this all done tonight, but I was having issues with my scanner and the software, so I will try to get to Part 2 sometime Monday or Tuesday morning…

Besides… you don’t think Fdjake can stop himself from posting now do you??? He’s gotta’ find a way to DISTRACT you with ANOTHER straw man to hide the FACT that with Part 2, he will have ONCE AGAIN shown that his “guarantee’s” and words are worthless… So I am sure you’ll have some entertainment between now and then… :bs :biglaugh :lol

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I just wanted to clarify something. I haven’t rehabbed 9 houses since Dec. The first 5 were bought with tenants in place so we took over and have just made repairs and some improvements on them.
I will, however, post numbers on our most extensive rehab. This is not a gut job. I keep my projects mostly within the realm of what I can do myself. I’ll post pictures once I get over there and finish up the last little bit of exterior painting on the couple places that didn’t get covered with siding. Should be soon.
This house is a 3/1. 1090 sqft. Central heat/air, solid hardwood floors throughout, good roof, storage shed out back. REO that had been on the market for several months. Started around 25k or so and the bank walked the price down a bit at a time. I finally checked on it when it was down to 12k. They dropped it to 9k and we offered 9.1k to beat out the expected full price offers.

House purchased on 3/23/09 for 9.1k.

Needed repairs / repairs made:
new water heater
floor repair under stove and in laundry room - back 3 ft of floor in laundry room needed leveling - that part was built with a slight sloped to it for some reason
replace one floor joist under wall from kitchen to laundry room
used 5 sheets of drywall to fix large holes in various places from pissed off people losing their house
repaired/replaced ceiling fans
new range hood
unstuck and fixed all windows for fire egress reasons
rebuilt about 1/2 of side porch because of rotted wood
installed peel and stick tile in bathroom, kitchen, and laundry room
ripped out old utility sink in laundry room
insulated house
installed shower walls made from FRP “sequentia” plastic
installed electrical outlet in bathroom
replaced all light switches and electrical outlets with new white pieces
new toilet
painted tub with epoxy paint
shelf/hanger systems in all closets
new mini-blinds on all windows
painted all walls/ceilings
painted all porches (3) and exteriors of windows
fire ext., smoke detectors, CO detectors
new siding
and probably some other things I just don’t remember fighting with now

Total of repairs:
$5966.13

One year of LL insurance:
$177.45

One year of flood insurance (creek at the edge of yard):
$223.00

Electric bills for the time we worked on it:
$174.64

Total investment:
$15,641.22

House rented on 6/13/09 for $225 every 2 weeks. We had to call and ask permission to enter right after it rented in order to finish up a few hours worth of work.

This was my weekend and a few nights per week project for just under 3 months. The only things we hired out were the water heater installation, insulation, and siding. Everything else I was able to do. The house is realistically worth $30k or a little more in today’s market here. Not a quick 75k or anything, but a solid rental for us.

And Positive, I know you’re pointing out discrepancies with fdjake’s numbers, but I don’t think I’d be incredibly worried if I told someone I made about 75k on something when it was only 72-73k. It’s still a good chunk of change either way.
You’re going way deeper into your house than I did with this, but like I said, I have to keep things at a level where I can handle them. I really hope you end up doing ok with yours.

Update:
I finally got the finished exterior pictures today. Here’s a link to the photo album for this project:

http://s425.photobucket.com/albums/pp333/justin0419/20th/

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THERE’S NOT A SINGLE THING IS THOSE PICTURES THAT A HOMEOWNER COULDN’T DO ON THEIR OWN!!! NOT ONE!! The first one is almost a BOX for BOX REPLACEMENT job!!! HOW CHALLENGING!!!

Anyone notice anything ELSE when comparing MY pics to HIS??? My pics show the project IN PROGRESS…His could be from his AUNTS PHOTO ALBUM!!! (THAT’s GONNA PRODUCE A lot OF OVER sized LETTERS AND bold TYPE!!!)

Let’s assume it’s HIS work…Did the owners pictures from 2001 mark the date you STARTED this project??? Because at the rate YOU WORK this job may have JUST been completed!!!

Another INTERESTING NOTE…He mentions that because I’m an experienced framer I should have KNOWN the size of the kitchen window he provided NO MEASUREMENTS for in HIS flip home…Then the IDIOT posts pictures of two KITCHENS with COMPLETELY DIFFERENT SIZED WINDOWS in them :banghead :banghead…I guess he MISSED THAT.

What a complete JOKE!!!

BUT…He did charge $6295 for HIS work with materials INCLUDED!!! WOW…What a LOSER I am…I ONLY made $70K+++++ IN 30 DAYS by LEAVING the cabinets IN PLACE in my flip!!!

BUT…That’s why he’s a REHAB CONTRACTOR “TRYING” to get into REAL ESTATE INVESTING and I’m on my 6th house for the YEAR as of next month!!!

They call it REAL ESTATE I N V E S T I N G for a REASON!!!

STILL NO NUMBERS FOR THE REMAINING LAUNDRY LIST OF THINGS HIS FLIP NEEDS!!!

BUT…I do believe the PRESSURE IS getting to him…LOT’S OF BOLD and OVERSIZED WORDS being used lately!!!

The points Positive is attempting to make show us a few things CLEARLY…

First…The concept of getting a PROPERTY to a point where it can be sold at a PROFIT for the LEAST amount of TIME and CAPITAL is the cornerstone of successful real estate investing.
Based on HIS own project he OBVIOUSLY has NO CONCEPT of this…ONE YEAR IN…and WHERE IS HE??? He’s got a RIPPED APART HOME that he WILL BE OVER BUDGET ON…It’s not DRYWALLED, NOT SIDED, NO KITCHEN, NO FLOORING…He MIGHT be HALF WAY FINISHED…AFTER ONE YEAR??? MY GOD…It’s PATHETIC…

I posted pictures of a quicky flip that turned a PROFIT of $70K++ and this dope WHINES about COMPETING DESIGN ELEMENTS??? THE HOME SOLD IN D A Y S!!! With MULTIPLE OFFERS!!!

Apparently those COMPETING DESIGN ELEMENTS created COMPETING OFFERS!!!

I NEVER rip out a servicable kitchen if I can avoid it…BUT… you’d have to INVEST IN REAL ESTATE to understand the REASONING behind those decisions…I’ve learned that buyers, like the MEMBERS HERE, LOVE these quicky kitchen rehabs!!!..People walk into these kitchens and see GRANITE and STAINLESS and they DO NOT EXPECT IT at these price points…They have no idea what the kitchen looked like BEFORE, nor do they CARE…THEY SEE VALUE THERE because everything they’ve looked at up to this point doesn’t have GRANITE and STAINLESS…Notice I didn’t say…FORMICA that tries to LOOK like granite…I have YET to see a buyer (or ANYONE ELSE) fooled by that material…There’s NOTHING wrong with it…BUT I add Granite to MOST of my flips because it’s an EXTRA people don’t expect to see in these starter homes…It makes you stand out!! AND…during the BOOM everyone got into the granite counter top business…You can get grnaite a LOT cheaper than it once cost…So I use that to MY advantage.

That was the POINT of the original post…You can do a very nice rehab, in a very short amount of time, for short money, and it WILL SELL YOUR PROPERTY!!!

WE all know POSITIVE would have ripped out this kitchen, RIPPED OUT the brick (and damaged the wall and the window trim) replaced the outlets with NEW BLACK ONES (That alone could have probably got me another $20K for this house :rolleyes)…and we all know he would have installed FORMICA counter tops, regular appliances…and the end result would have been???

Oh that’s right…He only buys homes that are FALLING IN ON THEMSELVES!!! HIS Kitchen rehabs come after ONE YEAR OF OWNERSHIP and when he’s OVER BUDGET!!!

This is OBVIOUSLY HIS PLAN with HIS investment property…

And we can ALL see how that’s working for him. :flush :flush :flush :flush :flush

ONE YEAR AND COUNTING!!! NO INTERIOR, NO SIDING, NO KITCHEN, NO DOORS, NO FLOORS…But HE’S the PRO :bs :bs :bs :bs

And NOW he’s a CABINET & FURNITURE MANUFACTURER TOO!!!..I guess he does this when he’s not sending HALF MATERIAL ORDERS to HOME DEPOT & LOWES, buying $1.19 2X4’s, and getting his supplies on CRAIGSLIST!!!

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Not to throw a monkeywrench in this never ending debate here.But I just wanted to offer a tip.I just finished 2 houses and used this laminate that is new that looks just like granite.I’ll post pics later on for yall.But these last kitchen counters were $300 compared to about $2200 for real granite.I’ll also look at my receipt and put the name,looks great.Gotta run out now,wife just put the sign in yard friday at 4pm and by 7 made 2 appts for showings 2day.Best luck to all.

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GOOD LUCK WITH THOSE SHOWINGS!!!

That’s is ALWAYS a good sign…Whenever you drop that sign in the ground and IMMEDIATELY get 2 people that want to SEE IT…

THAT is a Beautiful thing!!!

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Positiveoutlook - “Besides… you don’t think Fdjake can stop himself from posting now do you??? He’s gotta’ find a way to DISTRACT you with ANOTHER straw man to hide the FACT that with Part 2, he will have ONCE AGAIN shown that his “guarantee’s” and words are worthless… So I am sure you’ll have some entertainment between now and then…”

I warned you it was coming… I ALSO told you that he wouldn’t provide the HUD-1 for the property he supposedly sold, even though AFTER reading the file, and on his THIRD re-do of HIS OWN NUMBERS, his numbers STILL don’t add up… :bs

If anything, if Fdjake is really about teaching and helping other investors like he says :rolleyes the HUD-1 for his property would be very illuminating…

CLASSIC fdjake… misleading again…

“Another INTERESTING NOTE…He mentions that because I’m an experienced framer I should have KNOWN the size of the kitchen window he provided NO MEASUREMENTS for in HIS flip home…Then the IDIOT posts pictures of two KITCHENS with COMPLETELY DIFFERENT SIZED WINDOWS in them”

LOL… No YOU said you were an “experienced framer”, just like YOU said you had 20 years rehabbing experience… Unforntunately ANYONE who uses the search bar WILL find out you are WRONG AGAIN!

I GAVE you the ROOM SIZE and the Cabinet Footprint… so, wrong AGAIN… You, as an experienced framer" didnn’t even KNOW which wall had the window on it, and in addition, there are TWO different sets of pics in that post… the FIRST which had the same style footprint as your mutt of a kitchen (i.e. - L-shaped), which is WHY I chose it… and the second was a reface (see more info below)…

"GEE… I wonder why I mentioned that he never gave MEASUREMENTS for THE MOST IMPORTANT detail in the kitchen…The WINDOW OVER THE SINK and the measurement from the CORNER WALL to the CENTER of that window!!! "

Dude, you are COMPLETELY embarassing yourself… :redface I GAVE you the footprint of the kitchen when this started (i.e. - 7’ x 10’)… Just like with BOTH our kitchens pictured above, the window goes on the larger wall… you, as an “experienced framer” can’t figure out where CENTER is from the corner on a footprint of 7’ x 10’ in a 10’ x 10.5’ kitchen??? ESPECIALLY when you were GIVEN the sink base dimension also… AND all the other cabinet sizes ALSO, as well as me GIVING you the LOCATION of the stove and Frig, and the cabinet locations also, totally REMOVING ANY EXCUSE you had… BWAHAAA- HAAA- HAAA… and you STILL couldn’t do it…

So, Mr. 20 years rehabbing experience, and Mr. “experienced framer” just PROVED for everyone your only REAL experience is COLLECTING ESTIMATES… which, if you are an investor who does that as your plan, no problem, but YOU present yourself as one who does NOT…

The side by side before pics of Fdjake’s kitchen and my customer’s kitchen (i.e. - L-shaped style) the windows are VERY similar in size… the SECOND kitchen below that was REFACED has a LARGER window in a larger kitchen (also open-floor design)… but that one is a U-Shaped kitchen… two different kitchens… So nice try equating the two different style/sized kitchen windows… :bs :biglaugh :lol

So yet ANOTHER classic Fdjake misdirection… :bs

“He did charge $6295 for HIS work with materials INCLUDED!!!”

Yes, and that is WHY I posted the reface pic… to give people PERSPECTIVE on what YOU have to pay (i.e. - retail), and what I have to pay… you paid $3675 for your MUTT, YOUR COSTS ONLY… I charged $6295 for that refaced kitchen, three times the size of your mutt, and STILL made a few thousand… what does that tell you, junior… go ahead, put two and two together… what am I thinking?? Asking you to add… :biglaugh :lol

“That’s why he’s a REHAB CONTRACTOR “TRYING” to get into REAL ESTATE INVESTING and I’m on my 6th house for the YEAR as of next month!!!”

No, I am a Remodeler who is investng ON THE SIDE in real estate, NOT replacing my profession… I’ve never said different… that’s only yet another example of you putting words into people’s mouths… nice try, junior…

"BUT…I do believe the PRESSURE IS getting to him…LOT’S OF BOLD and OVERSIZED WORDS being used now!!! "

If thats your yard stick… then the “pressure” must be getting to you, Fdjake, becuase just about a 1/3 of your last post was all caps!!! :biglaugh :lol Bold and oversized words are used to draw attention to particular points… CAPS are “yelling” in internet world… So while you are YELLING, I am emphasizing… people who are under “pressure” YELL, and being that your post had a 1/3 of it in CAPS, we can all see who is reallly under pressure… :biglaugh :lol

FREE THE HUD-!..
 what are you AFRAID of???..
Teach us oh great-in-his-own-mind Fdjake… and use the HUD-1 for your sold property as a teaching tool… :beer

P.S. - Before he trys yet ANOTHER straw man, I will be posting Part II of my 2 for 1 tonight or tomorrow morning… you know, the one Fdjake “GUARANTEED” everyone here I never would… again, just words… :bs