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My name is on there, my cell phone is on there ( I have no home phone), and no particular address was specified so I used my work address. So I did give everything that was asked for other than my SS#.

So because over 200 years ago they were not specific about what particular type of “arms” were covered you think that gives you the right to carry whatever type of weapon you want?? That thinking is ridiculous. Times have changed Hooch. No private citizen needs to own an assault rifle. There is absolutely no purpose for it. As I said before if you are in a situation where you need an assault rifle for protection then you are either a criminal or in the wrong place at the wrong time in which case you are screwed. Those weapons need to be off the streets. Period.

Perhaps you could enlighten me on the uses of a personal assault rifle if you feel differently.

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I agree with you on the contract law, but as for loaning money to Private Enterprise… What else was the govt supposed to do? Seriously were they supposed to watch the financial system crumble? Were they supposed to let the Auto Industry shut down? The loss of jobs would have been staggering. The set-backs to the industry would have lasted for years.

For those of you on this board who are self-employed. Buh-bye. For those of you on this board that use a HELOC for ANY expenses (you know who you are). Buh-bye. We are talking total financial chaos here. Bank closures, life savings gone. Like I said in another posting. When a guy with a PHD in Economics from MIT says we need a bail-out I am going to believe him. I am shocked at the level of misunderstanding of where we were headed that is rampant on this board.

Since you do so much reading and you are so informed Mr. Positive Outlook I challenge you to post what your solution to the TOTAL COLLAPSE OF THE FINANCIAL SYTEM would have been. Please enlighten us to what the alternative was?

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[b]So because over 200 years ago they were not specific about what particular type of “arms” were covered you think that gives you the right to carry whatever type of weapon you want?? That thinking is ridiculous. Times have changed Hooch. No private citizen needs to own an assault rifle. There is absolutely no purpose for it. As I said before if you are in a situation where you need an assault rifle for protection then you are either a criminal or in the wrong place at the wrong time in which case you are screwed. Those weapons need to be off the streets. Period.

Perhaps you could enlighten me on the uses of a personal assault rifle if you feel differently. [/b]

Ok, I will enlighten you. Please tell me what the reason stated for having the right to bear arms is? To form a militia.

The founding fathers knew from past experience that there are times where the average citizen must overthrow their government. We are well on our way. Please explain to me how to do this with pistols, pocket knives and bows.

Now lets take this for an example. Saddam was mass murdering the Kurds. It was legal for each person to own as much as one machine gun. The Kurds were unable to fight their government attack helicopters so they paid the ultimate price of death. And that was with machine guns.

Now lets look at the war between Russia and Al Qaeda. We provided them with the appropriate equipment (surface to air missiles) and they were successfully able to overcome them by the loss of millions of dollars of tanks, helicopters and planes.

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Um yeah, that is exactly what we all need assault rifles for.

I think what you meant to say was when the ATF comes to talk to your “preacher” about his 10 year old wife you want to be able to defend him.

Seriously Hooch you are one scary dude. I can honestly say I hope you live FAR AWAY from Dallas, Texas.

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I think what you meant to say was when the ATF comes to talk to your “preacher” about his 10 year old wife you want to be able to defend him.

What are you talking about, this makes absolutely no since. What does the ATF have to do with a persons right to bear arms?

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The reason we have the 2nd amendment is to stop tyranny from the government. Tyranny in the gov is happening right now(not obeying the constitution)… something may need to happen.

Thats all im sayin.

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Thank you for explaining that to Chris Hoosier. Some people around here are a little “thick”.

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What it means is that you are completely off your rocker like the Branch Davidians were when the ATF came to talk to David Koresh about his stash of ASSAULT RIFLES. Those idiots fired on Federal agents and their Messiah burned them to the ground.

If you are honestly looking to join a militia to overthrow the government then then you are much crazier than I ever gave you credit for and I already thought you were bats**t nuts.

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Well said Hooch…

Christopher…

“My name is on there, my cell phone is on there ( I have no home phone), and no particular address was specified so I used my work address. So I did give everything that was asked for other than my SS#.”

So your PERSONAL Home number, and your PERSONAL social security number was asked for, but you thought I was asking for your BUSINESS address, when it was sandwhiched between two PERSONAL pieces of info???

OK, so as not to dodge it, let’s try again… provide your PERSONAL ADDRESS and your PERSONAL social security number… if not, WHY NOT???

And yet, you STILL haven’t supported your original assertion, so I’ll ask it AGAIN - how does posting Christopher W vs. CW change ANYTHING you are saying???

“Perhaps you could enlighten me on the uses of a personal assault rifle if you feel differently.”

The more types of guns your cede to the governent, the more they will take…
ESPECIALLY when the majority of assault rifle death are due to LAW ENFORCEMENT. Once they outlaw the broad assault weapons, they will continue to classify more and more of then as such…

People buy guns for many reasons… my question to you Christopher is do you know how many assault rifle deaths occur each year?

Keep in mind, these guns are already heavily regulated, restricted, taxed alot more, and require special licenses to have them…

ALL bullets kill people… and the people who do it illegally will still CONTINUE to do it illegally even IF you were to outllaw them… knives kill MORE people each years than guns… are you saying we should outlaw those too… EVERYONE has access to those… no license needed… :banghead

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What is amazing is that many of you are accusing the Govt of tyranny for trying to get us out of a very serious time in the history of this country. This entire country almost went down the tubes, and all you can complain about is “Socialism”.

What about the tyranny of the last 8 years. The erosion of personal freedoms? The Patriot act. The War in Iraq being started on falsehood (and please save me all of your cut and paste Positive outlook we both know information was falsified). Wiretaps without warrants…nobody has said a word about that, but heaven forbid somebody gets a free hand-out from the Government and you are all up in arms. Has anyone here ever filed for Bankruptcy? What is that? That is a free pass from the Government to walk away from your responsibilities and start over.

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Actually, many, maybe not here, but many, have been complaining(like I have) about the Patroit act, education reform(at the Federal level) and the war, for a long time before Obama. Personal freedoms have been dissapearing for along time, but are happening at a much more obvious/faster rate now.

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I never, not one single time said that the Bush administration was not corrupt. In Fact, I said the exact opposite. They all need to be thrown out off office, peacefully at first, but they will not give up the “gravy train” that they are on so it likely will have to be by force.

If you are honestly looking to join a militia to overthrow the government then then you are much crazier than I ever gave you credit for and I already thought you were bats**t nuts.

You are correct about me being crazier than you thought. And this statement WOULD be correct if the government CONTINUES to act against the WILL of the people. There was a time 6 ot 7 years ago where I would have said that there is no way I will ever really need my right to bear arms for a millitia.

And I can assure you that the people are beginning to rise. You will first see peaceful protests. They will last for a few years, then small militia groups will form (like Obamas best friend William Ayres group, the Weathermen Underground) They will attack the government just like Obama’s buddy did.

If the government continues it’s course it will fuel membership in these groups and the next thing you will know we will have a large group set on overthrowing the government. This is the same process that all governments loose power by. All of the politicians will be tried for treason (which is punishable by death).

Look what happened in Iran with the Shah when Jimmy Carter tried to protect him. Look at the rise of Castro. Look at the rise of Hitlar. Corruption will only go on for so long before the people demand the end. The unfortunate part of this is it often leads to the rise of a dictator with even more corruption.

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Couldnt have said it better…

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“As for the assault rifles. My point is why does any PRIVATE CITIZEN need an assault rifle. But as you are so prone to do you can never see the gray matter all you do is look at black and white. Just wait until one of your children gets struck by a stray bullet from a drive-by with an assault rifle and we will see how stiff your upper lip is. People like you are a freaking joke.”

People like you who wish to S**t on our constitution are a disgrace to our country. How about that? Right back to you.

It is you who is the joke. NO GUN TURNS A LAW ABIDING CITIZEN INTO A MURDER.

Guns kill people like Rosie O’Donells fork made her fat.

Guns kill people like Cameras Cause Pornography.

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And the reason it changes things is because no matter what my screen name is at least people can call me out on something if I step out of line as RookieNYC has done in the past. I don’t hide behind “Identity Theft” even though your name is nowhere in your email address.

You and Hooch can sit and hide behind your computers and spout your drivel with no reprisal other than some nasty post responses. Why not be a real man Positive and post your email address. And don’t give me that crap about identity theft. Trust me at this point in your life nobody and I do mean NOBODY wants to be you. "

“Lets see how much time can I waste not making money on my termite infested rental property while I let the biggest buying opportunity in years ( the combination of low rates and the 8K tax credit) pass me by so I can teach myself to rehab even though I am supposed to be a contractor. But hey my Realtor has advised me on how to do things and he wouldn’t lie to me would he?”

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Hooch,

I am not doing anything to the constitution other than intepreting it. Times have changed Hooch. What was written 200 years ago does not necessarily apply anymore. That is why the Constitution has been amended. Get with the program Hooch we are living in 2009 not 1775 anymore.

The fact that you cannot even see my side of the argument shows me that you and Positive are cut from the same cloth. Black and White only nowhere in between. No room for reason; it is my way or your a commie.

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He is slipping back into the realm of being a complete looser again because he knows he is wrong.
We all know this is what libs do when they are cornered.

“”“You and Hooch can sit and hide behind your computers and spout your drivel with no reprisal other than some nasty post responses.”“”

I’m not hiding behind anything, I’m just not thick in the skull like you are. Posting your personal information. You aren’t the sharpest tool in the shed, are ya?

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“”“Get with the program Hooch we are living in 2009 not 1775 anymore.”“”

We are quickly reverting to April 12, 1861 and if we get there we WILL need our CONSTITUTIONAL FREEDOMS

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Hooch,

I am in sales. My personal information is out there for everyone to see. All someone has to do is look in the Dallas appraisal district and they will see my name. It is already out there fool.

You on the other hand are happy to post on other web-sites using your real email address but on this web-site where your really crazyness comes out you hide behind your name. You are are a straight up P***Y Hooch and I am calling you on it.

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Hooch,

Thank you for being there to protect us blind government controlled mice, but I think I will stick with the way things are going as they have worked out pretty well for me.

And as you say " I may not be the sharpest tool", but I am definitely smarter than you.