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Offline black95gt

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Tenants car went through Back of Garage
« on: October 07, 2005, 11:15:36 am »
Last weekend my tenants car broke down.  They called the tow truck company and they loaded the car.  After they loaded it, somehow the car got loose, rolled off the truck and smashed through the back of the garage, pushing the whole wall off the sill plate and out into the yard.  

The question is, i have my own contractor that i use for projects that i handle or for instances like this.  The toe truck company wants to use their own contractor,  friends or whoever.  Do i have to accept their guy if hes lower?  Also, the garage is older and the siding that is on it, they dont make anymore. I will have to side the whole garage.  Will they have to pay for that as well? or do they jus have to pay and have the garage have different colors and siding?  Please advise.  Thanks

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Re:Tenants car went through Back of Garage
« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2005, 01:34:08 pm »
I would assume ( and we all know what happens when we do that) the insurance company, for the tow truck company, will make it right with you.  I would think that they would make sure that colors match and your are happy with the repair.  I believe that most insurance companies require that you "sign off" on the completed repair.
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Offline black95gt

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Re:Tenants car went through Back of Garage
« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2005, 01:45:42 pm »
well, the tow truck company doesnt want to use their insurance. They have a 1000 deductible so they just want to pay out of their pocket, unless it gets to high.  I got a cost estimate today for $2,000 to fix and put new siding on the area damaged.  I would figure another $2,500 to finish siding the garage to make it match the damaged area.  I guess what i am saying is, it all matched and everything was good until this incident happened.  So now that it happened, am i only entitled to have the damaged part repaired and paid for by the Tow company/insurance company and not the rest of the garage.  If the siding on the back doesnt match the front and the sides, then in my opinion it doesnt make the claim right.  To simplify this, are they supposed to pay to make it all look the same?

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Re:Tenants car went through Back of Garage
« Reply #3 on: October 07, 2005, 03:26:45 pm »
this is a grey area, but I think you will have to fight to get them it done right.  I would use the example of a car wreck.  If your car is badly damaged then you would have to repaint the whole thing to make it look right.

I  knew you were going to get the line about " I don't want to go thru my insurance"

I would consider to do the following if you have not already done so.
1) take plenty of pcitures
2) file a police report (or threaten to use this as leverage)
3) send a letter (certified mail) state you claim and you expect a complete repair.

Then if you can afford it, get the work done right.  If they do not pay in full, send a another letter demanding the money followed by taking them to small claims court.

Offline black95gt

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Re:Tenants car went through Back of Garage
« Reply #4 on: October 07, 2005, 03:54:39 pm »
Yeah, i have plenty of pictures.  The biggest questions i have, is can they choose a contractor for me, and can they say they will not pay to reside the rest of the garage?

Offline Dell Investor

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Re:Tenants car went through Back of Garage
« Reply #5 on: October 07, 2005, 07:59:36 pm »
Whatever you do it is in your best interest NOT to try and handle this with the tow company.  First of all, if it did happen the way it was told to you their (tow company) negligence is clear and at 100 percent.  (provided that the facts as relayed to you are correct)
Secondly, you do not know the real reason that the tow company does not want to go through their insurance company and DO NOT take the explanation as gospel.  
Third, if your tow company enters into an agreement with you outside of going through their insurance company and you are not happy with the work you may have barred yourself from going back to their insurance carrier.  MOst auot insurance or commercial for that matter have a little clause in them that says if the insured(in this case the tow company) enters into an agreement with a third party to settle damages(You) without letting the insurer know the insurance policy is void.
Fourth, your homeowners policy may also have such a clause as well. Better pull your policy and read it.  Also be aware that if you call your agent with a question it may be treated as a "claim" by underwriting even if your insurer did not pay anything.
Fifth, it is your house and they damaged it.. Whay would you let them dictate to you who should do the work.  My house, you damaged it, my choice of contractor. Not your couisin Billy Bob and Jethro.

My two cents, and take it for what it is worth(you do not know me from the man on the moon) is to contact your local police department and file an accident report.  Get the tow companies insurers information and file a claim and use them.  Most insurers, in spite of what you have heard, will treat you fairly.  They just want a chance to inspect any damage before any repairs are completed/started.  Also if you have a problem with the insurer regarding the repairs you can file a complaint with your local dept of insurance. (every state has one) You also can file suit to reclaim damages.  

The tow company is looking out for their best interest, not yours.
 

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Re:Tenants car went through Back of Garage
« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2005, 08:01:47 pm »
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Re:Tenants car went through Back of Garage
« Reply #7 on: October 07, 2005, 08:09:00 pm »
What about the tenant's car insurance? Does that come into play?
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Re:Tenants car went through Back of Garage
« Reply #8 on: October 07, 2005, 10:30:41 pm »
In the scenario given it would not.  The tenants vehicle was an unoccuppied non-driving vehicle and under the scenario given there would be no negligence on the tenant/vehicle.  

It is all about who was at fault and to what degree.

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Re:Tenants car went through Back of Garage
« Reply #9 on: October 10, 2005, 05:24:22 pm »
Ouch so sorry Black!

I like the police report idea. Also I would call your insurance company. By calling you are not making a claim, simply seeking information. And tell them the situation to find out what is legal here with respect to your policy.

I'm sure the tow company is trying to avoid a huge rate hike, but that really isn't your problem. For all you know that driver wasn't insured by them, or worse.

Get the tow company's insurance company name as well. Call them and verify they are in fact insured with that company and then request proof via a fax directly to you. People lie (big time).

I would also have your lawyer write up a statement (or you can do it) stating the facts as presented to you, have them sign and you sign -- both notarized. Then should a problem arise later, you've got a very valid statement of fault along with your police report.

Push the tow company to the wall if you have to, it must be fixed properly and they need to know you will get it fixed the right way.
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Re:Tenants car went through Back of Garage
« Reply #10 on: October 11, 2005, 08:02:56 am »

My insurance company (USAA) will hammer the other company for me if there's a payment problem.  They're great!

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Offline Dell Investor

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Re:Tenants car went through Back of Garage
« Reply #11 on: October 11, 2005, 11:02:59 am »
Tammi,

I work in the industry and I was just relaying firsthand knowledge regarding the insurance company treating and inquiry as a claim.  It happens all the time.  The down side to that is if our friend wants to change insurance companies for any reason, or he gets a rate hike that he is not happy with(not related to this scenario) most A++ rated insurance companies require three years of claim free history before they will issue a policy.

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Re:Tenants car went through Back of Garage
« Reply #12 on: October 11, 2005, 12:42:36 pm »
Another thing to keep in mind is that ALL tow truck companies are crooks.  Don't believe anything they say.  If you let them fix the garage, they will look for every shortcut they can find.  If they want to do something other than call their insurance company, I would get an estamate from my guy, add 10% and ask for that in cash.
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Offline TamiSpartan

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Re:Tenants car went through Back of Garage
« Reply #13 on: October 11, 2005, 02:15:39 pm »
Tammi,

I work in the industry and I was just relaying firsthand knowledge regarding the insurance company treating and inquiry as a claim.  It happens all the time.  The down side to that is if our friend wants to change insurance companies for any reason, or he gets a rate hike that he is not happy with(not related to this scenario) most A++ rated insurance companies require three years of claim free history before they will issue a policy.

Thanks Dell! I appreciate the lesson -- I would freak out if I called for information and it was treated as a claim. Lesson learned.

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Re:Tenants car went through Back of Garage
« Reply #14 on: October 17, 2005, 09:59:19 am »
bluemoon06, you need to get your head out of your ass.  i bet i could put what you know about towing cars (or fixing houses for that matter) in a thimble, chump!  you must have had a car repoed or something to have even thought of something that ignorant to say.

is towing cars, or having anything else to do with cars for that matter, a ppretty business?  absolutley not.  probably one of the most unpleasant situations anyone could ever be in is having their car towed....wrecked, broken, illegally parked...absolutley no love for the tow truck driver.  its not his fault your car broke, you wrecked or parked illegally.

the tow truck guy obviously doesn't want anyone to report on his insurance.  its the root of his business.

get a police report, tell the tow truck company you want it fixed right and if he's not willing to do so, call his insurance company.

 




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