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Offline jfpen

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Landlord Locks with Master Key?
« on: February 15, 2010, 10:45:09 pm »
I have too many keys!! Does anyone know of a lock system where the landlord would have just one single key? Thanks.

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Offline justin0419

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Re: Landlord Locks with Master Key?
« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2010, 11:12:40 pm »
There's this:

http://www.landlordlocks.com/

I saw the kwikset selling at Lowe's this weekend.  I just don't want to spend the extra money on them.  I buy new doorknobs and deadbolts for each new house and just buy the cheap little keychains with space to write on.  All the keychains then go in my high tech Zip-Lock bag.
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Re: Landlord Locks with Master Key?
« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2010, 02:52:53 pm »
I have the world’s record changing locks.  I can change a door lock faster than most people can spit.

By the way Ziplock bags are the way to go for me also.  I write right on the bag with a Sharpie
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Re: Landlord Locks with Master Key?
« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2010, 02:19:02 am »
There's this:

http://www.landlordlocks.com/

I saw the kwikset selling at Lowe's this weekend.  I just don't want to spend the extra money on them.  I buy new doorknobs and deadbolts for each new house and just buy the cheap little keychains with space to write on.  All the keychains then go in my high tech Zip-Lock bag.

thanks for sharing the link

Offline jfpen

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Re: Landlord Locks with Master Key?
« Reply #4 on: December 29, 2010, 06:55:56 pm »
I just wanted to follow up on this thread.  I just purchased 12 sets of doorknobs and deadbolts from landlordlocks.com . The total cost with shipping was $639. I now have ONE KEY for the whole property!!! 

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Offline motivatedceo

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Re: Landlord Locks with Master Key?
« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2010, 07:38:42 am »
They are a waste of money if your properties already have good locks, especially at $25 a pop.

If you want to burn money and replace all your locks, then go for it.

Just organize your locks and matching keys in ziplocks or small zipper bags, like the previous person said, and rotate them between properties. E.G. Remove the old locks from the old property, and put them on a different one in the future. The amount of money you will save over time will be amazing - and that has been the standard practice of most apartment complexes for years.
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Re: Landlord Locks with Master Key?
« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2010, 09:11:14 pm »
They are a waste of money if your properties already have good locks, especially at $25 a pop.

If you want to burn money and replace all your locks, then go for it.

Just organize your locks and matching keys in ziplocks or small zipper bags, like the previous person said, and rotate them between properties. E.G. Remove the old locks from the old property, and put them on a different one in the future. The amount of money you will save over time will be amazing - and that has been the standard practice of most apartment complexes for years.

I've been using that method and it doesn't work for me.

What I started with was a bunch of mixed up Kwikset/Schlage doorknobs and deadbolts.  Some doors had a doorknob from one manufacturer and the deadbolt from the other.  I had more than 12 sets of keys. Finding the correct keys was a laborious task no matter how well marked.
Because my building has a central fire alarm, I also have to have keys in a lockbox mounted on the buildings exterior for the fire department. Earlier this year, I had a false alarm and the fire department responded.  I was there and let the fire department in. However, they did inform me that they do not waste much time fumbling through the cluster of keys for an unfamiliar property before they knock the door down. The fire rated doors cost $600 ea. They would have busted through two of them that day if I wasn't there. That would have cost me $1200.

Being that master-keyed and standard locksets cost the same. I think buying locksets that aren't master keyed is a waste of money.

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Re: Landlord Locks with Master Key?
« Reply #7 on: December 31, 2010, 06:51:35 am »
>> Well, it works for 95% of the landlords out there. I know dozens and dozens of landlords, including people who own 1000+ apartment complex units<<
I've been using that method and it doesn't work for me.

>> That is your fault for not being organized - I know - as I used to do the same thing, but I am now organized<<
What I started with was a bunch of mixed up Kwikset/Schlage doorknobs and deadbolts.  Some doors had a doorknob from one manufacturer and the deadbolt from the other.  I had more than 12 sets of keys. Finding the correct keys was a laborious task no matter how well marked.

>> That is unusual. In Texas, the fire department can and will kick the door down. They NEVER wait for the landlord to come up with some keys. And again, its all a matter of being organized.<<
Because my building has a central fire alarm, I also have to have keys in a lockbox mounted on the buildings exterior for the fire department. Earlier this year, I had a false alarm and the fire department responded.  I was there and let the fire department in. However, they did inform me that they do not waste much time fumbling through the cluster of keys for an unfamiliar property before they knock the door down. The fire rated doors cost $600 ea. They would have busted through two of them that day if I wasn't there. That would have cost me $1200.

>> That might be true for you. But for 95% of the landlords out there, they ARE a waste of money if you have existing, good locks.<<
Being that master-keyed and standard locksets cost the same. I think buying locksets that aren't master keyed is a waste of money.

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Re: Landlord Locks with Master Key?
« Reply #8 on: December 31, 2010, 11:17:44 am »
>> Well, it works for 95% of the landlords out there. I know dozens and dozens of landlords, including people who own 1000+ apartment complex units<<
I've been using that method and it doesn't work for me.

>> That is your fault for not being organized - I know - as I used to do the same thing, but I am now organized<<
What I started with was a bunch of mixed up Kwikset/Schlage doorknobs and deadbolts.  Some doors had a doorknob from one manufacturer and the deadbolt from the other.  I had more than 12 sets of keys. Finding the correct keys was a laborious task no matter how well marked.

>> That is unusual. In Texas, the fire department can and will kick the door down. They NEVER wait for the landlord to come up with some keys. And again, its all a matter of being organized.<<
Because my building has a central fire alarm, I also have to have keys in a lockbox mounted on the buildings exterior for the fire department. Earlier this year, I had a false alarm and the fire department responded.  I was there and let the fire department in. However, they did inform me that they do not waste much time fumbling through the cluster of keys for an unfamiliar property before they knock the door down. The fire rated doors cost $600 ea. They would have busted through two of them that day if I wasn't there. That would have cost me $1200.

>> That might be true for you. But for 95% of the landlords out there, they ARE a waste of money if you have existing, good locks.<<
Being that master-keyed and standard locksets cost the same. I think buying locksets that aren't master keyed is a waste of money.


LOL, nice bait!!

FWIW, In RI the fire department will knock the door down if there is a fire and they don't have easy access to the property. If you call to let them know that it is a false alarm, they use the key to enter and then inspect the property. That's why they mandate the lockbox.

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Re: Landlord Locks with Master Key?
« Reply #9 on: December 31, 2010, 06:09:13 pm »
We have about 30 units, scattered all over town.  One masterkey.

When locks go bad--stick, don't work right--we call OUR locksmith.  The guy we let use the fax machine for free.  The guy who does all our locks.  The guy we can rely on and he relies on our money.

A lock will go bad every month or so. Then it gets replaced with a new Kwikset, and keyed for the masterkey as well.  The keys hang in a locked key cupboard, stole that idea from the Realtors.  Each key has a plastic colored tag with our mailing/office address on one side, and the NAME of the unit on the other, not the address.

If there is a sketchy tenant ever, we re-key that unit.

The Masterkey has saved hundreds of hours of searching and to-and-fro-ing.  It works for us.

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Re: Landlord Locks with Master Key?
« Reply #10 on: January 05, 2011, 04:53:28 pm »
You cn never have too many keys.  If you walk around with a big old key ring with 100 keys on it you look important.
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Re: Landlord Locks with Master Key?
« Reply #11 on: January 05, 2011, 09:16:12 pm »
Don't forget having a belt clip for your cell phone and a bluetooth headset too.
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Re: Landlord Locks with Master Key?
« Reply #12 on: January 06, 2011, 09:32:05 am »
I must admit that like our dear president I am guilty of the Blackberry clipped to my belt also.  I did take the pocket protector out of my shirt pocket about 10 years ago, but I still put the pens there I just live with the ink stains.
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Re: Landlord Locks with Master Key?
« Reply #13 on: September 16, 2014, 08:21:05 am »
A master key is the one that can access many doors. The Landlord has the authority to access the doors for security purposes. Having the skilled and experience locksmith can figure out and make its own master key.


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Re: Landlord Locks with Master Key?
« Reply #14 on: October 12, 2014, 02:19:36 pm »
I understand the frustration of having so many keys. It is less about organization and more about the pain of making sure you grabbed the right key. When I was in property management, we had a master key for every multi-tenant building. It is a really easy thing for a locksmith to do for you. Then when the locks need to be changed when a tenant moves out, you do not have to change your master key. Much cheaper than changing locksets.
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