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PositiveOutlook

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« Reply #15 on: December 09, 2009, 02:10:00 pm »
Bluemoon06,

"I really am in both camps and at the same time not in either camp. "


Some people refer to that as being a "moderate"... 

That said, I know plenty of people who follow political philosophies (i.e. - liberal, conservative, etc.) MOSTLY, but have differing views on some of them...  its the philosophy they MOST identify with that they usually follow...

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« Reply #16 on: December 09, 2009, 04:05:06 pm »
I think the audit of the Fed legislation that will probably pass the house tomorrow (attached to a nasty financial reform bill) will turn this "Fed conspiracy" into facts the American public can no longer ignore, even you FO.


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« Reply #17 on: December 10, 2009, 03:43:15 pm »
Bluemoon06,

"I really am in both camps and at the same time not in either camp. "


Some people refer to that as being a "moderate"... 

That said, I know plenty of people who follow political philosophies (i.e. - liberal, conservative, etc.) MOSTLY, but have differing views on some of them...  its the philosophy they MOST identify with that they usually follow...
I am not moderate.  Moderates are lukewarm.  They are not extreme in their views.  I am not lukewarm.  When I am conservative I am conservative when I am liberal I am liberal.  For example on crime.  I think it should be hard as heck to go to jail. But once you go you never get out.  I believe if you steal you don’t go to jail you have to work at some job and the payment for the job goes to pay the person they stole from back.  If you just can’t stop stealing or you are violent you go to jail and you never get out.  I believe in gun ownership and it should be mandatory for every adult in public must have a visible gun on their person.


But I believe that gays should be able to marry and that socialism should be used in situations that socialism is the best solution to the situation.  That is why I like that term political atheist.  I pray to neither political god.
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« Reply #18 on: December 10, 2009, 07:05:39 pm »
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I believe if you steal you don’t go to jail you have to work at some job and the payment for the job goes to pay the person they stole from back.

BRILLIANT!  If you're a thief and get caught, all you have to do is pay back the victim!  That's a great deal for the criminals - if they steal from 10 people and get caught once, they simply pay back one victim.  Absolutely no deterrent to crime whatsoever!  I'm beginning to wonder about you Bluemoon.
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« Reply #19 on: December 10, 2009, 07:52:24 pm »
They steal beause they don't want to work.  They will have to work if they get caught instead of sitting around watching cable tv with 3 square meals in jail.

They end up stealing a used TV worth $100 and paying you back for a new TV worth $900.

You say you wonder about me.  I would worry about me also.  I am a real nut.  I don't have a traditional idea of how most things should work.
« Last Edit: December 10, 2009, 07:54:17 pm by Bluemoon06 »
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« Reply #20 on: December 10, 2009, 08:52:59 pm »
Bluemoon06,

"They steal beause they don't want to work.  They will have to work if they get caught instead of sitting around watching cable tv with 3 square meals in jail. They end up stealing a used TV worth $100 and paying you back for a new TV worth $900."


So, they work to pay off the $900 TV which will take a couple of weeks, and then they can go back to their stealing, because, remember, they don't want to work... ????

"You say you wonder about me.  I would worry about me also.  I am a real nut.  I don't have a traditional idea of how most things should work."

Just remember, you said it...   :biggrin



"I believe in gun ownership and it should be mandatory for every adult in public must have a visible gun on their person."

Do you consider MANDATORY possession of a visible gun Conservative or Liberal?



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« Reply #21 on: December 11, 2009, 11:03:26 am »
Bluemoon06,

"They steal beause they don't want to work.  They will have to work if they get caught instead of sitting around watching cable tv with 3 square meals in jail. They end up stealing a used TV worth $100 and paying you back for a new TV worth $900."


So, they work to pay off the $900 TV which will take a couple of weeks, and then they can go back to their stealing, because, remember, they don't want to work... ????
You have to remember it is not like go get a job at McDonalds and get your paycheck and send it to me.  They are in custody, they work for the state and are paid at those types of rates.  I see it as like the chain gang type work.  These would be public works type jobs that may pay the going rate but they would first have to pay for their incarceration (room and board) and the rest going to restitution.  It costs about $50,000/year to house an inmate.  But under the type of system I see, it should cost a lot less with no cable TV education or benefits etc.  I estimate it would cost $25,000/year $68.00/day to house an inmate, only after that does the money go to pay off their debt.  They would have to make $8.50/hour just top pay for their incarceration.  It is not jail it is work.  Like a work camp.  You don’t get cable TV you don’t get education you get work.


"I believe in gun ownership and it should be mandatory for every adult in public must have a visible gun on their person."

Do you consider MANDATORY possession of a visible gun Conservative or Liberal?


I would say that is conservative
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