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Offline Hoosier4life2005

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Re: More Gun Insanity
« Reply #105 on: November 29, 2009, 06:20:10 pm »
Thank GOD Indiana doesnt have Socialist laws like FO wants.

My dad is getting me a nice handgun for Christmas.  In Indiana, you dont even have to register your guns at all.  As long as you pass the background check, your good.

Cant carry until im 21(when I do turn 21, i plan on carrying), but as long as the gun stays inside my house, it doesnt have to be registered.

If I want to take in my car, the gun must be completley seperated from the ammo, in different locations.  If I get caught with a loaded gun in my car (since im 21), i get a Felony.

I personally am happy with Indianas gun laws, although ide like to see the carry age be brought down from 21 to 18.

Do you see a problem with this FO?  I bet you do.

Im Josh Azbell and im 20.  Add me on facebook :)  Im from Indiana.  I am going to be a Real Estate investor.

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Re: More Gun Insanity
« Reply #106 on: November 29, 2009, 06:35:12 pm »
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I want to get criminals off the streets.  I want the whole nation to wake up to the fact that we can't carry on like this--with this level of gun violence.  I want every hoodlum to know that carrying that unlicensed, unregistered gun is going to get him serious jail time.  Guaranteed.

Then instead of thinking of ways to punish honest, law-abiding citizens, you should actually do something to improve things.  I can think of several things you could do that would actually help.

1. Work in your state to ensure that criminals actually SERVE THEIR SENTENCES.  There are already plenty of gun laws on the books to punish people who illegally use firearms.  The problem is that our criminal justice program has completely broken down and criminals are no longer seriously punished.  What would YOU be willing to do to ensure that criminals are actually punished?  Would you be willing to have serious punishments for serious crimes?  Would you be willing to take tv out of prison?  Would you be willing to take weights and basketball courts out of prison?  What exactly would you be willing to do to ensure people don't want to go to prison?

2. Work in your state to elect judges that will severely punish criminals that are involved in gun crime.

3. Do some SERIOUS research into gun violence and learn the truth about it.  THINK about the REALITY of the situation, instead of always buying into the lies and socialist propaganda.  Find out what happens when cities, states, and countries ban guns (GUN VIOLENCE GOES UP).  Find out what happens when citizens carry guns - violent crime goes down.

4. Quit railing against something you know absolutely nothing about.  Go to a gun range and learn to shoot.  You'll soon see that guns DON'T KILL ANYONE!  If they did, it would be a massacre in millions of American homes.  Believe it or not, I have several guns and not a single one of them has even threatened me, let alone shot me.  The just stay where they are put, without complaint, without threats, without 'going off'.  LOL!
 
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Re: More Gun Insanity
« Reply #107 on: November 29, 2009, 07:05:38 pm »
Propertymanager,

What I find interesting is that Furnishedowner somehow thinks that a criminal is more apt to be deterred by a FEDERAL law prison sentence than a state law prison sentence, even though there are ALREADY federal laws regarding guns.  Her solution is always FEDERAL... taking power from the states and handing it over to the federal government.  Then add on top of it, a registration and licensing of all the LAW-ABIDING gun owners who have ALREADY passed a background check...

Anyone with any sense of history knows the danger in this... whether she recognizes this danger or not is NO REASON for others to give up their rights... 


http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/pdf/fuo.pdf

In a US Department Of Justice (DOJ) Survey of Inmates in State and Federal Correctional Facilities...  "During the offense that brought them to prison, 15% of State inmates and 13% of Federal inmates carried a handgun; about 2% had a military-style semiautomatic gun or machine gun.

Among prisoners carrying a firearm during their crime, 40% of State inmates and 56% of Federal inmates received a sentence enhancement because of the firearm."
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FURNISHEDOWNER,

From the above DOJ site - "On average, State inmates possessing a firearm received sentences of 18 years, while those without a weapon had an average sentence of 12 years."

So the STATES ENHANCED their sentences by SIX (6) years for people possessing a firearm and it STILL doesn't work...  mind you, this is 20% LONGER than you wanted in your FEDERAL law...

Like WE SAID, the laws are ALREADY on the books, they are just not being carried out to their term, have a NEGATIVE effect on their deterrent value... 

So, the question is... NOW what?...  10 years?
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