Income Tax

Probably one of the best articles i’ve read on our 16th amendment tax.

http://www.campaignforliberty.com/article.php?view=182&discuss=1#discuss

All of the laws in the USA are voluntary. You can do whatever you want to do. You just have to worry about getting caught. The income tax is voluntary just like stopping at a red light is voluntary. You don’t have to stop at it. There is nothing in the constitution saying you have to stop at it. Most of the time that you don’t stop at it you will be ok, but when you are caught not stopping at that red light you will get a ticket.

If you don’t file your income tax you are going to jail. If you don’t pay the tax, they will take it.

Bluemoon06,

“If you don’t file your income tax you are going to jail. If you don’t pay the tax, they will take it.”

That is the very opposite of voluntary… here’s the full definition of voluntary…

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/voluntary

In the definition, as it relates to the LAW,

4. LAW
a. acting or done WITHOUT compulsion OR obligation

Seriously? Dude… Im sure even Chris and fdjake would agree that, your post, regardless of your political beliefs, makes no sense.

So you dont HAVE to do it? But… if you dont… your going to get in trouble… lolz

It’s not voluntary, period. It’s a play on words. Speaking of words, I have these highlighted on the Declaration of Independence hanging on my wall here in my office. Something we should all make sure we are familiarized with.

The declaration of Independence

IN CONGRESS, JULY 4, 1776

The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America

That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

John, im seriously concerned. We both know what needs to happen, no need discussing it here(who knows whos tracking what were reading). But this new government take over is… discusting.

Say what you want about Bush… he NEVER gave a speech as discusting as the one we just heard.

Something needs to happen.

If you want a good example of what will happen if you don’t pay your taxes take a good look at the Wesley Snipes trial. The IRS does not mess around.

The whole “income tax is voluntary” argument is ridiculous.

Read the definition the PositiveOutlook posted above. Nothing is voluntary. Everything we do is for a reward or to avoid pain. We don’t even breathe voluntarily. We breathe because it hurts if we don’t.

That being said the argument that these guys use is that there is no provision for income tax in the constitution. These guys either slept through civics class or were home schooled. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_the_United_States There are many more laws made through administrative actions than bills in congress or specifically called out in the constitution.