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Offline sellnbama

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Re: the terrorists new lawyer is our president!?
« Reply #90 on: June 12, 2009, 05:18:07 pm »
"Rabid right winger" so glad we got that cleared up for about two seconds. :rolleyes  Jake did give you some good advice.But since I guess we can't get past right/left crap and a conservative like me does'nt know what I'm talkind about or how to tell you how to be successful.I'll give it a shot though since I'm 35yrs old and pretty much semi-retired(must've done something right along the way).Jake's right on the bs of no money to make money.It's possible,but then again so is hitting the lottery.I found three mentors in real estate who were very successful & bought them lunches,they would pay 1/2 the time and just let them share what they would.Also I worked with a home inspector,which was a good thing to learn about construction and codes etc.I can go on and on the point is if you want to be in this business there are alot of ground up things you can do that kinda suck at first but you're learning so you'll know whats involved on your houses when you get ready.My stepmom's in nursing also,it is a rock solid career,just I would'nt depend on their retirement for the longhaul.Just the simple fact that you are as knowledgable as you are this far at your age is leaps and bounds above the rest.I'll help with any advice I can offer and won't do any glory dance if it works in your favor,,,,it will if you make it.(stay away from the rabid right wingers they're gonna make u fail just to hurt you. :rolleyes :rolleyes)      

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Re: the terrorists new lawyer is our president!?
« Reply #91 on: June 12, 2009, 05:23:15 pm »
I think for every josh there's more like 50k that are worthless future govt dependants,don't underestimate the clueless among our youth.lol

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Re: the terrorists new lawyer is our president!?
« Reply #92 on: June 12, 2009, 07:35:41 pm »
Bama.......Show me where I said you didn't know what you were talking about????

You're a pretty opinionated guy from what I read of your posts.....

Well so am I brother....SO AM I!!!!  But don't put words in my mouth.

I bet if you and I sat down in a bar this political BS we're wasting our time with here would give way to some AWESOME real estate deal stories....

In the end......we got a hell of a lot more in common than not!  :beer
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Re: the terrorists new lawyer is our president!?
« Reply #93 on: June 12, 2009, 07:51:09 pm »
I dont think Bama has every broken up his writing into paragraphs.  His writings are like a big wall of letters.

I think Bama really likes politics, dontchuh Bama? lol
« Last Edit: June 12, 2009, 07:53:29 pm by Hoosier4life2005 »
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Re: the terrorists new lawyer is our president!?
« Reply #94 on: June 12, 2009, 09:35:21 pm »
fdjake,
I agree,we actually were inline on the big picture in whats wrong in washington.


Hoosier,
I'm just being "conservative"with space bro.lol....and yes I am following this trainwreck pretty close(aka obama).

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« Reply #95 on: June 13, 2009, 04:23:06 pm »
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« Reply #96 on: June 13, 2009, 06:57:10 pm »
I called College Pro  (I didnt feel like waiting 3 days) , left my message and all,and I should be expecting a phone call soon according to the machine.  So jake, ill let you know how that turns up.
Im Josh Azbell and im 20.  Add me on facebook :)  Im from Indiana.  I am going to be a Real Estate investor.

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« Reply #97 on: June 14, 2009, 12:42:30 pm »
I ran a painting crew for a student painters for a summer right after high school. It was a great job. I got to hire all my friends and make good money. I would highly recommend it Josh. The only reason I only didn't stay with it is because the following summers I followed the Grateful Dead around selling various non-illegal items. It was some of the best times of my life because of the fun and the easy money. I believe the key to being successful is starting as young as you can. Most people will give u the "I am 2 young to be serious. I have the rest of my life to work." That is BS!! When I was 9 years old I used to cut coupons out of my local paper for the local arcade/pizza place. They were "buy 6 tokens get six free". I would then go to the arcade buy 6 tokens for $1.00 and get six free and then I would hang out near the token machine and sell them in singles to kids that had various amounts of change but no quarters. I did not make me rich but I alwYs had spending money at the mall and I got to play all of the video games I wanted for free. My point is Josh if you start now by the time u are 23 or 24 you will be set while all your friends are complaint about there 35-40k per year jobs you will have multiple streams of income making you $100k+ a year loving life. By the time u are 30 you will picking and choosing when and where u want to work.
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« Reply #98 on: June 14, 2009, 01:13:09 pm »
Here's what I found to be the KEY to success in business. 

The ABILITY (not opportunity) to take RISKS!!

This is DECEPTIVELY SIMPLE.......But OVERWHELMINGLY POWERFUL.  One's ABILITY to take risks is DIRECTLY related to their available CAPITAL.  The MORE capital....the more ability to RISK/USE that capital.  People with very high debt levels have almost ZERO risk capital.   But exactly HOW do you obtain this higher level of risk capital????    The answer is very simple.....

The single biggest investment 95% of people ever make is their HOME!!

And 95% of them DO IT WRONG!!!!

Most people BURY themselves in their first home.. And contrary to popular opinion, a home ALWAYS requires MONEY....IT EATS MONEY....Even a NEW HOME will EAT capital ever year... Once most people buy their first home,  they CUT OFF 99% of the opportunity that they COULD have had because their house now OWNS them......There is NO EXTRA money for investing in ANYTHING.  They are basically TRAPPED for 30 YEARS!!!

Let me lay out a simple alternative for Josh and it's reprecussions for his future.

Let's say Josh does the College Pro deal and spends 3 summers painting houses.  He's 18 now, so that would make him 21 after 3 summers.  By this time he's on his own, hiring his buddies, and making $30K or more in a summer. 

The key to this scenerio is Josh's ability to SAVE THE MONEY HE MAKES!!!  Without that.....The rest will NOT happen for him.  But we're going to assume he can save his money and we will futher assume he lives with his parents until he's 21 or 22.  The significance of living at home during the next few years is almost incalculable.

Josh should be able to put $50K together in CASH after 3-4 years. That should be his GOAL. Without a CONCRETE GOAL you are spinning your wheels.  I had a calender when I was 22 that had $25,000 written on it.  EVERY single deposit I made I crossed off that $25K and wrote in the new LOWER number.  It became a GAME to me, and I got GOOD at it!!!! Josh will also be working on his Real Estate skills in the meantime too.  He'll learn what CHEAP is in certain areas in his target markets.  He'll learn how to find people who want their HOUSES PAINTED thanks to College Pro.  Now he'll simply RE-DIRECT that marketing towards people that WANT TO SELL their HOMES!!!!!

Josh should be able to buy his first house for CASH...NO MORTGAGE...He's in Indiana, so that $50K price point should not be out of reach.  Josh will also buy his first house for HALF it's market value.  He has NO MORTGAGE and owns NO OTHER PROPERTY, so he can hold this house and LIVE IN IT for a year then SELL IT and pay NOTHING to UNCLE SAM..........Z E R O.......It's ALL his...as long as he buys another home within a year.   While he's living in his first house,  Josh will already be looking for his NEXT home......But this time it's NICER....He uses the PROFITS plus his original CASH (because he gets that ALL back when he sells) to pay CASH AGAIN for his second NICER house. 

My guess is this might take him 3 years (from age 22).....He needs to find JUST 2 houses....JUST 2!!!

So.......With some hard work and DISCIPLINE.....Josh could be a 25 year old guy with NO MORTGAGE and a very nice house!!!

Let me tell you this.....And this is not a single WORD of exaggeration.....

THAT WILL CHANGE YOUR LIFE more than you can ever understand at your current age!!!!!!!

You won't be TIED to ANYTHING.....You can take risks other people could only DREAM of.....You can work as much or as LITTLE as you want.
The MONEY you'll be able to SAVE at the age of 25 will be MIND BOGGLING to the rest of your FRIENDS and family.  And BANKS will be tripping over each other to LOAN YOU ALL the MONEY you could ever want!!!!!

Once you reach the point of NOT having a mortgage.........It won't be a question of IF you become a MILLIONAIRE.....It's simply a matter of WHEN!!!!

What you do with the next 5 years of your life will either SET YOU UP.....OR KNOCK YOU DOWN for your remaining years.
This is THE MOST IMPORTANT time in your life because you have NO commitments to anything or anyone.   You are TRUELY FREE!!!
If you'd like to STAY that way....DO NOT waste these years.....INVEST in yourself NOW and the rest of your life will be what YOU want it to be!!!

This is EXACTLY how I made my money......When my friends were buying 3 bedroom ranch houses at RETAIL.....I was SAVING MONEY.....I watch friend after friend go to college, get married, buy a house and DIG THEMSELVES A 30 YEAR HOLE.
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« Reply #99 on: June 14, 2009, 08:02:02 pm »
Its funny because thats exactly what my plan has been.  Saving 50k in two years, after I graduate nursing school.  I will be making about 35K a year, and the gov will probably take like... 10K of that (idk what the tax income rates are right now),.  So... If I do some really really heavy saving, keep my expenses low, and live with my parents I should be able to save like 20K of the remaining 25K a year that I make.

Yeah... im going to be a cheap a$$ when Im young. lol.  50K by the time im 21-22 is very achievable. (and trust me, ive always naturally been a saver), i dont think itll be hard.

After Ive saved that 50K, there are so many options open for me at that age, compared to what my other peers will have.  :beer




Here's what I found to be the KEY to success in business. 

The ABILITY (not opportunity) to take RISKS!!

This is DECEPTIVELY SIMPLE.......But OVERWHELMINGLY POWERFUL.  One's ABILITY to take risks is DIRECTLY related to their available CAPITAL.  The MORE capital....the more ability to RISK/USE that capital.  People with very high debt levels have almost ZERO risk capital.   But exactly HOW do you obtain this higher level of risk capital????    The answer is very simple.....

The single biggest investment 95% of people ever make is their HOME!!

And 95% of them DO IT WRONG!!!!

Most people BURY themselves in their first home.. And contrary to popular opinion, a home ALWAYS requires MONEY....IT EATS MONEY....Even a NEW HOME will EAT capital ever year... Once most people buy their first home,  they CUT OFF 99% of the opportunity that they COULD have had because their house now OWNS them......There is NO EXTRA money for investing in ANYTHING.  They are basically TRAPPED for 30 YEARS!!!

Let me lay out a simple alternative for Josh and it's reprecussions for his future.

Let's say Josh does the College Pro deal and spends 3 summers painting houses.  He's 18 now, so that would make him 21 after 3 summers.  By this time he's on his own, hiring his buddies, and making $30K or more in a summer. 

The key to this scenerio is Josh's ability to SAVE THE MONEY HE MAKES!!!  Without that.....The rest will NOT happen for him.  But we're going to assume he can save his money and we will futher assume he lives with his parents until he's 21 or 22.  The significance of living at home during the next few years is almost incalculable.

Josh should be able to put $50K together in CASH after 3-4 years. That should be his GOAL. Without a CONCRETE GOAL you are spinning your wheels.  I had a calender when I was 22 that had $25,000 written on it.  EVERY single deposit I made I crossed off that $25K and wrote in the new LOWER number.  It became a GAME to me, and I got GOOD at it!!!! Josh will also be working on his Real Estate skills in the meantime too.  He'll learn what CHEAP is in certain areas in his target markets.  He'll learn how to find people who want their HOUSES PAINTED thanks to College Pro.  Now he'll simply RE-DIRECT that marketing towards people that WANT TO SELL their HOMES!!!!!

Josh should be able to buy his first house for CASH...NO MORTGAGE...He's in Indiana, so that $50K price point should not be out of reach.  Josh will also buy his first house for HALF it's market value.  He has NO MORTGAGE and owns NO OTHER PROPERTY, so he can hold this house and LIVE IN IT for a year then SELL IT and pay NOTHING to UNCLE SAM..........Z E R O.......It's ALL his...as long as he buys another home within a year.   While he's living in his first house,  Josh will already be looking for his NEXT home......But this time it's NICER....He uses the PROFITS plus his original CASH (because he gets that ALL back when he sells) to pay CASH AGAIN for his second NICER house. 

My guess is this might take him 3 years (from age 22).....He needs to find JUST 2 houses....JUST 2!!!

So.......With some hard work and DISCIPLINE.....Josh could be a 25 year old guy with NO MORTGAGE and a very nice house!!!

Let me tell you this.....And this is not a single WORD of exaggeration.....

THAT WILL CHANGE YOUR LIFE more than you can ever understand at your current age!!!!!!!

You won't be TIED to ANYTHING.....You can take risks other people could only DREAM of.....You can work as much or as LITTLE as you want.
The MONEY you'll be able to SAVE at the age of 25 will be MIND BOGGLING to the rest of your FRIENDS and family.  And BANKS will be tripping over each other to LOAN YOU ALL the MONEY you could ever want!!!!!

Once you reach the point of NOT having a mortgage.........It won't be a question of IF you become a MILLIONAIRE.....It's simply a matter of WHEN!!!!

What you do with the next 5 years of your life will either SET YOU UP.....OR KNOCK YOU DOWN for your remaining years.
This is THE MOST IMPORTANT time in your life because you have NO commitments to anything or anyone.   You are TRUELY FREE!!!
If you'd like to STAY that way....DO NOT waste these years.....INVEST in yourself NOW and the rest of your life will be what YOU want it to be!!!

This is EXACTLY how I made my money......When my friends were buying 3 bedroom ranch houses at RETAIL.....I was SAVING MONEY.....I watch friend after friend go to college, get married, buy a house and DIG THEMSELVES A 30 YEAR HOLE.
Im Josh Azbell and im 20.  Add me on facebook :)  Im from Indiana.  I am going to be a Real Estate investor.

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« Reply #100 on: June 15, 2009, 01:05:24 am »
One of the biggest financial mistakes I made when I was younger was trading cars ALL the time.  It was so stupid, but I was never satisfied so I kept changing.  I don't want to even think of how much money I wasted by changing cars every few months (and no that's not an exaggeration).  The last couple years have resulted in a complete shift in my mindset. 
The advice Pete is giving you about starting out without a mortgage is priceless.  If you position yourself like he's telling you, you will have so many other opportunities to invest that others won't.  Don't rush to get the shiny new BMW and 10,000 sq ft mansion.  Many people are living a life they can't afford and it's only a matter of time before the house of cards falls.  Foreclosures are happening at all price levels.  For most people, the more they make the more they spend so even people making well into the six figure range are still tied to their jobs because they've got more expensive toys.  If you can live below your means for a time in your life, the ability to afford those expensive things will come. 
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« Reply #101 on: June 15, 2009, 07:29:11 am »
Great point Justin.

Having CASH in times like this is PRICELESS.

I picked up a Dodge Viper last year for less than the cost of a one year old Ford Fusion.  The guy sellling it owned a marine motor repair business.  With gas at $5/gallon and almost NO ONE even putting their boats in the water last summer, his business died.

The car was never driven in the rain, kept in a climate controlled garage, and had service records going back to day one. 
This is what opportunity looks like.  Now it's a year later....Chrysler in their backruptcy filing has stated that they do not have a buyer for VIPER.  The REAL story is that FIAT owns Ferrari and has NO DESIRE to sell $100,000 Vipers in competition with their hallmark brand FERARRI.
Viper is DEAD........

Now watch what happens to the PRICES of Vipers over the next 10 to 15 years.  They'll do what all race bred, high horse power, beautiful, limited edition cars do.......Prices will go through the roof!!  Everytime I drive this car it attracts attention.  KIDS, especially young kids, go crazy over this car.  My son gets a kick out of being dropped of at school in it.  These KIDS will be grownups someday.  The cars they dreamed about as kids will be the cars they WANT as adults.  Shelby Cobras that wouldn't sell for $6000 in 1967 now command MILLIONS,  Hemi Cudas that in 1972 were being sold for $1200 because gas hit $1.00 now cost $250,000.   The list is endless.

The point is.....with CASH, opportunities come along almost everyday!!!!!

My wife and I recently started collecting Thos. Moser furniture.  This furniture is literally hand made and very expensive.  Like $6000 for a dining room table WITHOUT chairs.  Moser furniture is made to last hundreds of years.  It's all mortised,  tenioned, wedged and doweled. Made from American Black Cherry and Ash, no screws, no fasteners, just craftmanship and quality materials.  If you're a carpenter or wood worker this stuff MEANS something to you.   His simple Continous Arm Chairs are in Art Museums, they sell for $1300 EACH.   Here's the point.....I would NEVER spend $6000 on a table.....BUT......I sure would spend $2000 to buy that table off of CRAIGSLIST with CHAIRS!!!  A guy put a set on there last month.  It was his mothers, she had passed away and he was selling what she had.  I happened to see it within minutes of the ad being placed.
I picked up a Thos. Moser dining table with 4 bow back chairs and 2 Continuous Arm Chairs for $2000!!!!   The stuff is in PERFECT condition.  I had a friend of mine that owns a high end antique shop come by and take a look.  He said he could get me $7000 for the set THAT DAY!!!

Think about this......Most people buy furniture that DROPS in value the second it leaves the store.  Most of it is DESIGNED to last about 10 years.
A dining room set from almost any furniture store is worth less than HALF it's value once used.   Thos Moser furniture RARELY comes up for sale used.
There's a demand for it, and the prices are very high.  Having cash, a little knowledge, and being READY to jump can make you money on ANYTHING.
When I called the guy for this furniture I told him I was ON MY WAY with CASH and would take every piece of Moser he had.  That did it!

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