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Offline RealEstateConsultant

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Re: All Politicians and Business men are crooks
« Reply #30 on: May 09, 2009, 08:19:47 pm »
And thats just part of the dishonesty and crookedness out there. Come out from under your rock Positive Outlook.

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Re: All Politicians and Business men are crooks
« Reply #31 on: May 09, 2009, 08:25:18 pm »
And the last time I checked people will choose and pick who they want to do business. People choose who they want to do business with based upon multiple factors. One of them being, honesty. If I followed your logic, I would be doing business with every moe, larry and curly out there. Last time I checked I have a couple vendors that I TRUST and get the job done. The others I trust less and/or provide me with less on the price-quality matrix.



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Re: All Politicians and Business men are crooks
« Reply #32 on: May 09, 2009, 08:27:09 pm »
I am being the most honest and truthful because I am calling it as it is.

Ok, I am done for tonight. Time to get dancing............. :bobble

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Re: All Politicians and Business men are crooks
« Reply #33 on: May 09, 2009, 09:16:07 pm »
RealEstateConsultant,

I'm now totally confused... Your example of ALL businessmen and politicians being crooks is to cite a study from 15 years ago that showed "15-18% of ever married people break contracts"?  Last time I checked, marriage was not a business, but an institution...

Your assertion of ALL went down to an example of 15-18%, i.e. - a SMALL minority is hardly proof and VERY far from "ALL".  How about showing a study that's actually germane to your theory where ALL businessmen and politicians are crooks... better yet, find one that has 60%... otherwise, it's just your OPINION... which you are of course, entitled to, no matter how misguided...  But don't expect others to cave to your OPINION that all businessmen are crooks JUST because you say so...

"One of them being, honesty. If I followed your logic, I would be doing business with every moe, larry and curly out there" - But according to your theory, there ARE NO HONEST businessman or politicians, only crooks, so honesty should not even be a factor for you...  That's like saying "I don't trust blondes" and then considering them anyway...  doesn't make the remotest of sense...

"I am being the most honest and truthful because I am calling it as it is. " - yes, but as we've established, you're a businessman, and according to your own reasoning, you are a crook and therefore cannot be trusted to be "truthful" OR "honest"...  or is everyone esle a crook EXCEPT for you...  :rolleyes

Again, I would take a hard look at who you are surrounding yourself with... and AGAIN, not a knock, but observation...  You must have gotten screwed real bad to have such a jaded world view...

Enjoy your dancing...  I'm taking a break from my son's "rave" in our back yard ...  time to head back out...  oops, too late, as I am typing, the guitar hero/rock band saga continues.... :beer  (must of run out of marshmallows or the bonfire went out)...

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Re: All Politicians and Business men are crooks
« Reply #34 on: May 10, 2009, 01:55:53 am »
We already agreed that the title was for emphasis and not for accuracy. I am not going to revisit that point.

Regarding the marriage data, I am making a point regarding human characteristics. I thought you would understand that. Maybe I am wrong. Just like how this is the third time explaining the title was not for accuracy but for emphasis.

A human characteristic developed in one aspect of someones life will potentially be carried onto other parts of life. Its called a habit. For example: If you habitually cannot understand that "all business and politicians are crooks" was for an emphasis than you might habitually cannot understand other concepts (not a knock, just an observation).

If you break a contract, you can break another contract. Very easy concept. Breaking a contract to me means crooked.   

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Re: All Politicians and Business men are crooks
« Reply #35 on: May 10, 2009, 07:34:43 am »
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We already agreed that the title was for emphasis and not for accuracy. I am not going to revisit that point.


Finally something I agree with.  You titled the post "All Politicians and Business men are crooks" when what you really meant is "A Very Small Percentage of Politicians and Business Men are Crooks."  Do you always exaggerate like this?

Mike
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Re: All Politicians and Business men are crooks
« Reply #36 on: May 10, 2009, 08:55:53 am »
RealEstateConsultant ,

If the title was for "emphasis"... revisit it... what did you actually mean?  What percentage of businessmen and politicians ARE indeed crooks?

If it is, as I agree with Mike, a minority percentage as opposed to a majority percentage, then what exactly is your point of the thread?

As we go on, you are revising your title down to the point that it was obviously an exaggeration... better to either admit it (but that would require putting pride aside), or provide actual proof of your theory...  As you can see, we entertained the theory, you just haven't come forward on the proof...

My point about the "human characteristic", as you put it, is that the example you were able to come up with was only 15-18%, and it is nowhere near even a simple majority...  SO IT'S NOT APPLICABLE as an example...

Who knows, maybe you came to your conclusions from TV...

http://www.businessandmedia.org/specialreports/2007/AmericanBusinessman/AmericanBusinessman_execsum.asp

Or from Hollywood...

http://www.westernrevival.org/crooks_in_suits.htm

One things for sure, you haven't provided a plausible explanation or support for your initial post, nor an adequate rebuttal of you actually being a businessman, and as such, according to your theory you are a "crook", which would steer people AWAY from purchasing your product on the website you promote...  Like this thread... makes no sense...

It's all OPINION, no supporting facts...  Like I said, you're entitled to it... no matter how ludicrous...


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Re: All Politicians and Business men are crooks
« Reply #37 on: May 12, 2009, 09:12:01 pm »
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We already agreed that the title was for emphasis and not for accuracy. I am not going to revisit that point.


Finally something I agree with.  You titled the post "All Politicians and Business men are crooks" when what you really meant is "A Very Small Percentage of Politicians and Business Men are Crooks."  Do you always exaggerate like this?

Mike

There is no exaggeration. Its about subjective experiences not objective experiences. Subjectively this statement can be true. Objectively it can be a smaller number.



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Re: All Politicians and Business men are crooks
« Reply #38 on: May 12, 2009, 09:12:44 pm »
Subjective experiences are not opinion. They are observed.

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Re: All Politicians and Business men are crooks
« Reply #39 on: May 12, 2009, 09:34:00 pm »
"Subjective experiences are not opinion. They are observed" -

Which is why I suggested you should take a hard look at who you are surrounding yourself with... If you are observing that much negativity that leads you to a conclusion that ALL, then MOST businessmen and politicians are crooks... something is out of whack...

I just certainly hope, for your sake, that your customers don't come to the same conclusion about you based on your theory...

Best of luck...   :beer

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Re: All Politicians and Business men are crooks
« Reply #40 on: May 12, 2009, 09:46:22 pm »
Again, I would rather say to someone, there is a minefield ahead than have them step on the mines themselves especially in business. I think my customers would appreciate the honesty. Hopefully when you buy something or do business with someone you are somewhat skeptical. If not than good luck to you too. 


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Re: All Politicians and Business men are crooks
« Reply #41 on: May 12, 2009, 09:53:50 pm »
"Hopefully when you buy something or do business with someone you are somewhat skeptical" -

There's a difference between being skeptical and being jaded...  My "observation" is that you are the latter, which is the reason for my suggestion...

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Re: All Politicians and Business men are crooks
« Reply #42 on: May 12, 2009, 09:57:08 pm »
Your observation is incorrect. Again: Title was for emphasis.

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Re: All Politicians and Business men are crooks
« Reply #43 on: May 12, 2009, 10:00:52 pm »
It wasn't only based on the title, but also on subsequant posts... But, if you say so... we'll leave it at that...   :smile

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Re: All Politicians and Business men are crooks
« Reply #44 on: May 12, 2009, 10:02:44 pm »
 :cool

 




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