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Who is going to be our Next President in 2009?

John McCain
23 (42.6%)
Barack Obama
28 (51.9%)
Ralph Nader
0 (0%)
Donald Duck
3 (5.6%)

Total Members Voted: 52

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Offline phlemboy

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Re: Mccain? Obama?
« Reply #105 on: August 07, 2008, 04:08:46 pm »
Democrats tax & spend. Republicans borrow & spend. If this country were a business, it would fail. There is SO much waste in govt. spending, its crazy!
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Re: Mccain? Obama?
« Reply #106 on: August 13, 2008, 10:57:45 am »
As many of you know, near Fredericksburg, Texas, there is a large German-speaking population.  A farmer walking down a country road notices a man drinking from his pond, with his hand.

The Amish man shouts, "Trink das wasser nicht.  Die kuhen haben dahin gesheissen", which  means: 'Don't drink the water, the cows have [crapped] in it'.
 
The man  shouts back, "I'm from New York and just down here campaigning for Obama, I can't understand you. Please speak in English".
 
The Amish man says: "Use two hands, you'll get more".


(Lighten up, it's a joke!  I just got it in first before it was a 'McCain joke')
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Re: Mccain? Obama?
« Reply #107 on: August 14, 2008, 01:00:58 pm »
Vice President Who?   :anon

Who will President John Mcain select as a running mate?

Who will Senator Obama pick to run with him, Hillary?

Thoughs on this?   :terminator
« Last Edit: August 14, 2008, 01:03:38 pm by wallacehobbs »
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Offline MikeInCali

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Re: Mccain? Obama?
« Reply #108 on: August 14, 2008, 04:32:24 pm »
As many of you know, near Fredericksburg, Texas, there is a large German-speaking population.  A farmer walking down a country road notices a man drinking from his pond, with his hand.

The Amish man shouts, "Trink das wasser nicht.  Die kuhen haben dahin gesheissen", which  means: 'Don't drink the water, the cows have [crapped] in it'.
 
The man  shouts back, "I'm from New York and just down here campaigning for Obama, I can't understand you. Please speak in English".
 
The Amish man says: "Use two hands, you'll get more".


(Lighten up, it's a joke!  I just got it in first before it was a 'McCain joke')

Haha a good one.  But if it was a McCain joke a conservative would more likely say, "Learn english old man or go back to France where you came from!

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Re: Mccain? Obama?
« Reply #109 on: August 16, 2008, 05:06:03 pm »

One of the reasons I don't like to engage in political discussion is because of people like Mike.  He is acting out of passion and hatred for Obama and is speaking straight from the Republican discredited talking points.  He is even referring to Obama as Osama without realizing that Obama is not even a muslim name but West African and Barak is a hebrew name.  Al Queda was Sadam's biggest enemy because they hated the secular Sadam.  In fact, they came into Iraq after the fool we elected as president invaded Iraq after duping people like Mike.  He did not manage to dupe 99% of the remainder of the world, thank God.  Al Queda's only mission in Iraq is to drive the infidels out and they will again retreat once the US pulls out.  Even the Iraqis recognize that.  Al Sadr has already declared he will lay down arms when the US puts a timetable in place (he is not Al Queda because he is Shiite).  As for Israel, one of the few people that can bring peace to the middle east is Obama because he is viewed an an honest broker.  He will be the best thing for Israel and is probably the only American leader that can bring peace between Israel and the Palestinians.

The world loves Obama for a reason and it's because they hate Bush and his policies.  Take a cue.

Mike, I know your type.  I see them all over the internet spreading smears and hate.  Take what Mike says with a grain of salt.   He is not being rational.

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« Reply #110 on: August 16, 2008, 05:12:35 pm »
Mike,

One more thing.  Are you the christian you say you are?  I've always loved reading your post but I am so so disappointed in your.  To think that you claim to be a man of God but could spew so much hatred for someone you do not know and obviously not familiar with his positions, is sad indeed.  Check out fightthesmears.org and barackobama.com.

Offline johna1

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« Reply #111 on: August 16, 2008, 05:28:43 pm »

Quote of the week from Sir Charles Barkley:

"Poor People have been voting for Democrats for the last 50 years ... and they are still poor."

Quite the contrary.  Read what's the matter with Kansas.

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« Reply #112 on: August 16, 2008, 05:33:44 pm »
Mike,
I don't believe Obama is a socialist. I have listened to him a number of times and I think he believes in the American entrepreneurial spirit. I am really not worried about this country going totally socialist.
 
Some socialist programs I would absolutely vote for: socialized medicine for one. It is a scandal when our infant death rate is somewhere around 28th in the world and we are such a rich country. We can afford to have a socialist-type safety net so that the insane, infirm, retarded, and elderly receive needed care. A civilized country takes care of it resources. That includes the health of its populace.

I hope you can visit Europe someday and observe real socialism in action. I have cousins in Denmark and they tell me only 1 spouse can work as the income of the 2nd spouse would go entirely to taxes. So why work? Also, the reliance on the government is much too great and they protest wrongs too little!

Here you can start work with little or no governmental regulation. By that, I mean you can put a sign in front of your house:"Babysitting","Yard Mowing", "Bookkeeper", "Transmissions Fixed", or whatever. You can do none of those things in many European countries without a license, permit, special degree from a trade school, etc.

That is what I love about this country. I can go in and remodel a house, fix a bathroom, whatever I want. In Denmark I MUST hire the certified carpenter, electrician, bricklayer. You can't do it yourself or you will be found out and fined. My cousins are flabbergasted that I have built a business in 4 years and with almost nil governmental regulation and interference.

Relax, Mike. This is still a capitalist country and Obama and McCain are both capitalists. We're gonna be alright.

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Nice post.  The fact is no one President could not change our deeply entrenched captilalistic system and those that say the contrary are just plain old paranoid.  In Mike's case, I suspect he is using it to mask his deep animosity and discomfort toward Obama as a candidate period.

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Re: Mccain? Obama?
« Reply #113 on: August 16, 2008, 09:02:55 pm »
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Why do you have to bring politics into this forum.

Politics has no place here.


Quite the contrary, there is no single thing that is more pertinent to real estate investors than the next election.  We are at a critical point in our society - the point at which we decide whether we want to have freedom and capitalism or whether we want to have socialism and government control of every aspect of our lives (it takes a village to raise a child).  NAME ANYTHING THAT IS MORE PERTINENT TO REAL ESTATE INVESTORS THAN THAT!

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One of the reasons I don't like to engage in political discussion is because of people like Mike.  He is acting out of passion and hatred for Obama and is speaking straight from the Republican discredited talking points.

First of all, I am not a Republican.  In fact, if we wanted to be completely accurate, I am registered as a Democrat, since I voted for Billary in the primary.  However, in reality, I certainly don't believe in either the Democrat or Republican agendas - I am a conservative.  I don't take anything I say from any talking points, I simply say what I believe.  If you carefully read my posts, you would see that I am very much against much of what the republicans have done - especially the new Medicare Drug Entitlement and the wild spending of President Bush and his administration.

However, I do have a particular dislike for Obama.  He is EXTREMELY DANGEROUS because he is a socialist and wants to implement socialism in the United States.  As an entrepreneur, there could be no greater threat to my business and my freedom.  That's why I call him Osama in my posts - because he WILL do more damage to the United States than 100 Osama Bin Ladens could ever do.  Osama tried to destroy this country with 4 airplanes.  Obama will destroy the very fabric of our country from within.

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Offline johna1

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Re: Mccain? Obama?
« Reply #114 on: August 16, 2008, 09:38:13 pm »
Mike,

You've just inadvertently revealed to the entire forum that you are motivated by pure unadulterated hate for Obama and is clearly masking the real reasons you don't like him.  Your admitting to voting for Hillary who hold the identical positions to Obama reveals your very core.  By her record, the right wing nuts can easily label her as a flaming liberal but yet you admit to voting to perpetuate the same policies you so hate Obama for.  Methinks you have a hidden agenda.  That's my last post on the subject because  the direction of this subject stinks to high heavens.  I second shutting down this thread.

Offline propertymanager

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« Reply #115 on: August 16, 2008, 10:04:20 pm »
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I second shutting down this thread.

When did we become such a politically correct society that the free exchange of ideas can't occur?

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You've just inadvertently revealed to the entire forum that you are motivated by pure unadulterated hate for Obama and is clearly masking the real reasons you don't like him.


I certainly do not hate Obama and I clearly stated the reason that I think he would make a terrible President - because he is a socialist.

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Your admitting to voting for Hillary who hold the identical positions to Obama reveals your very core.  By her record, the right wing nuts can easily label her as a flaming liberal but yet you admit to voting to perpetuate the same policies you so hate Obama for.  Methinks you have a hidden agenda.

"Youthinks" wrong.  I voted for Hillary because the Republicans don't have anything to offer and Hillary (like Bill) isn't an idealist.  Obama really believes in socialism.  Hillary doesn't believe in anything - except being president.  She would like to be very liberal, but I believe that she would govern as Bill did - by focus group.  In my opinion, she is infinitely better than Obama and I have a hard time voting for a Republican who isn't a conservative.  Don't get me wrong, I don't want Hillary or McCain to be president, but either of them is better than an overt socialist.

Mike


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« Reply #116 on: August 16, 2008, 10:26:32 pm »
You are either misguided or misrepresenting the truth.  The fact is indisputably.  Obama and Hillary are both liberal Democrats who hold identical policy positions.  In fact, Hillary is more liberal because she wants socialized medicine/mandated premiums and Obama doesn't.  Obama has moved to the center on many issues just like Hillary would have done but of course he is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't because he can't catch a break from guys like you.  Calling him Osama is highly offensive to a man that have dedicated his entire life to the others.  I don't care how you want to parse your words and make up justifications on the fly to hide your real purpose.  You haven't fooled the people on here who can think for themselves.  It's these rabid people like you that have turned me from a Republican to an independent.  I can't stand the hate and hypocrisy that the Republican party has come to represent.

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« Reply #117 on: August 16, 2008, 11:20:51 pm »
"came into Iraq after the fool we elected as president invaded Iraq after duping people like Mike." - you mean the President of the US MADE-UP the intelligence that not only the rest of the world had and thought was accurate, but the previous Democratic administration used as justification for bombing Iraq? The same intelligence that the politicians had access to BEFORE granting him the power to act, along with how many security resolutions.  You are indicting an entire world full of people when you say Bush "duped" Mike, including politicians, media, etc. .


"I can't stand the hate and hypocrisy that the Republican party has come to represent." - Talk about swallowing a party line (democrat - you might as well switch parties at this point).  John, while I am an independent, the Democrats are the kings of hypocrisy and hate.  That being said, I love how people who have a different view of things are labeled as people who "hate" - how very open-minded...   :rolleyes

This is the reason nothing gets done. It's not "let's present our ideas and viewpoints and let the people decide which they would like to follow", no, instead we are distracted by the dance BOTH political parties put on.... it's, you're a hypocrite, you're a liar, you're a homophobe, you wanna' destroy the environment (Even thought 20years ago, Ted Danson declared that it would be destroyed in 10 years.... again, ignorance, Al Gore is just another version in political clothing) you "hate" people because I disagree with what you say on any particular subject.

If our children talked or conducted themselves in such ways, they would be rightfully chastised.

Look at how one-sided the mass-media (who use OUR public airwaves) is.... it might explain why you are buying this stuff hook-line-and-sinker, down to the talking point...  Think past party affiliation and think country-affiliation...

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« Reply #118 on: August 17, 2008, 06:11:21 am »
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You are either misguided or misrepresenting the truth.  The fact is indisputably.  Obama and Hillary are both liberal Democrats who hold identical policy positions.  In fact, Hillary is more liberal because she wants socialized medicine/mandated premiums and Obama doesn't.  Obama has moved to the center on many issues just like Hillary would have done but of course he is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't because he can't catch a break from guys like you.

So, if you think that both Hillary and Obama are both equally socialist in their plans (I don't), why would you support them if you're in the REI business.  Barack has announced that he will tax the rich; take profits from those evil businesses that are too profitable (he gets to decide what is too profitable); and pass a cap and trade system that will destroy our country?  Why would someone in business support that?

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« Reply #119 on: August 17, 2008, 08:02:32 am »
Our political system is a mess right now. And it is truly scary how naive(johna1) some of the voting public is. Go to dailykos where you will feel more at home.

 




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