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Offline mopac

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code enforcement
« on: January 04, 2008, 11:46:27 am »
I received my first code enforcement call today.. Telling me not to put signs out anymore or I will be cited.. that really bites... I guess this is going to make me change how i post my  bandit signs... if anyone has gotten these calls how have you adjusted your marketing with bandit signs....
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Offline GOD WNZ

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Re: code enforcement
« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2008, 04:47:05 pm »
How much for the citation ?  How much do you make from the bandito signs..........It's only money.
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Offline rama1

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Re: code enforcement
« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2008, 08:50:28 am »
Yeah, if you citation is $200 and you could make $5K-10K -- hey, that is expense.

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Re: code enforcement
« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2008, 11:20:33 am »
About a week after putting out 25 or so bandit signs I got a call from code enforcement also; $1200 per day for each sign....I took them down. It's a shame since they generated 2 or 3 calls over the course of the week.

I even had a code enforcement officer take down my "For Sale" signs that I had permission to install; township ordinance stated signs only allowed on the actual property for sale. I found the signs ($75 each for the large one's, $35 for the small ones) in a pile behind twp hall and stopped in after hours and retrieved them.

Now I only put signs out from Friday night to Sunday night  (I've never met a government worker who would lift a finger while not on the clock) and have never been called or had signs confiscated.

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Offline LuckyBuysYuckyHouses

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Re: code enforcement
« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2008, 01:28:08 pm »
I'm in Central Florida and around here the fines are around $1200 per day as well. They can add up pretty fast.

You could always just get an anonymous phone number and voicemail. That usually frustrates code enforcement pretty good  :biggrin
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Offline MichaelQuarles

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Re: code enforcement
« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2008, 06:33:13 pm »
Stop wasting your money with bandit signs.... Nevermind what was I thinking...  I buy houses because of bandit signs investors put out...
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Offline jmd_forest

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Re: code enforcement
« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2008, 03:05:14 pm »
Michael,

Bandit signs are only one of several marketing activities I use and they provide some of the best bang for the buck. I advertise in the local "Ad-Lines", put out door hangers, and do direct marketing to NODs and estates but the bandit signs generate the most leads.

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Re: code enforcement
« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2008, 05:07:09 pm »
Fantastic on your success however you are still wasting money on bandit signs... There is a way to have calls from bandit signs without using bandit signs... And stop using door hangers too... They are not the highest and best use of resources...
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Re: code enforcement
« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2008, 06:55:51 am »
make sure you read the code carefully and they follow the correct procedurefor the fine. I got a  $4200 ticket but got out of it because the
building incpector didnt give me wriiten notice and the time to take down the signs like it says in the town ordinance. So read it carefully you probably have more time than you think.


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Re: code enforcement
« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2008, 01:57:50 pm »
Hey Michael..
I enjoy you post, you are always informative and present a wealth of information.. You are saying stop using bandit signs and Door Hangers.. as a wholesaler with limited marketing dollars. I seem to think and agree that bandit signs give you quite a bang for your buck... door hangers aren't as effective, but for the dollars, it presents another area for an investor with limited marketing dollars to be affective, I would love to hear from you, how I can replace this avenue of marketing and still be affective...
Thanks...
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Re: code enforcement
« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2008, 02:29:34 pm »
I disagree with the doorhanger opinion, while this may not bring you better results than TV or multipul forms of marketing at one point in time; doorhangers are very effective being left at foreclosures.  Of course we dont leave them on the door so our competitors can remove them.  When you do multipul forms of marketing people dont even know where they saw your info, but they just call.  So having a vanity # or something easy to remember is key.  If the marketing looks nice and has a specific message people save them, ie; I had someone call me from a doorhanger that we left 2 years ago when she was in foreclosure but at the time she was able to refi.  We took over this one with it only being 1 month behind because she saved the doorhanger.  Im not saying that doorhangers are the best form of marketing, but you have to give credit when they have helped to buy a lot of properties.  

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Re: code enforcement
« Reply #11 on: January 07, 2008, 02:40:19 pm »
That is nice story but rather an exception. In general, I would agree with Michael, like with many of his posts -- doorhangers are not working.

Offline jmd_forest

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Re: code enforcement
« Reply #12 on: January 07, 2008, 03:14:23 pm »
Michael,

I'm always open to learning new things. So... how do you get calls from bandit signs without having bandit signs?? Also, what do you consider the most effective marketing techniques? Specifics would be appreciated. Thanks for your help.

jmd_forest

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Re: code enforcement
« Reply #13 on: January 07, 2008, 04:25:32 pm »
Our out come may very well be the exception, we do advertise multipul medias which is a big help, but i think the big difference is who you are marketing to and what your copy says.  For the cost of a door hanger and gas money someone new could do it fairly cheaply. 

The way to get others to call you from bandit signs or other marketing is to have memorable phone #'s and/or marketing that everyone relates/remembers when they are in a perticular situation.  So when they see the "we buy houses" bandit signs everywhere they end up just calling the guy that has the # 1800cashforhouses ect... even though that wasnt the # on the sign, just an example.

Ps; rama1 have you ever seen a 6x17inch door hanger they get some attention  :beer

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Re: code enforcement
« Reply #14 on: January 07, 2008, 10:11:21 pm »
I tried posting an article I wrote about advertising but it was over 2000 Charactors... Sorry...

Door Hangers dont work... No matter what size they are.. that doesnt mean they dont get results... But working is defined as the highest and best use of your money and time... Door hangers are not.

As for bandit signs... Again I buy houses from them but I dont use them... I have the 411 listing for I buy Houses and we buy houses..

I have to stop saying this...

Anyone who wants the article just tell me how to post it..

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