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Offline Tunckey06

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how much equity do I need?
« on: August 02, 2007, 04:22:52 pm »
Hey everyone I came across a motivated seller who may be willing to sell his house under market value lets say 250k or little less he's trying to avoid using an agent, now the property is worth 310k and the last home has just sold in the same area around 270k.  Do you feel this would be a good deal for a quick flip or should I shoot for a lower purchasing price?

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Re: how much equity do I need?
« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2007, 04:27:19 pm »
how did you establish the $310k price? if the house in good condition, $250k might be good price depending on the average in your town. if you can get the price lower, then by all means do it.
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Offline LoriK

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Re: how much equity do I need?
« Reply #2 on: August 02, 2007, 04:28:03 pm »
If the recent comps say $270 - you might have a hard time justifying $310 as your ARV.

What are the repair costs for this property? You need much  much less than $250 for this house.

Offline rgchamb

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Re: how much equity do I need?
« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2007, 09:07:28 am »
The basic formula used by most investors is .7 x ARV - repairs.  The 30% is the investor profit & the cost to buy & sell the house.  So just run the numbers.

Offline Tunckey06

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Re: how much equity do I need?
« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2007, 08:06:39 am »
can you give me an example with real numbers

Offline NHinvestor

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Re: how much equity do I need?
« Reply #5 on: August 04, 2007, 02:17:08 pm »
  If the house is say worth $310k then you would have to take 70% of that, which is .7 X $310k=  217K.  Now subtract your  repairs, lets say $15k, which will be 217-15= 202.   Now subtract your profit of what you want. Lets say $5k so $202k-$5k = $197k this would be your MAX offer so shoot out an offer lower than that then negotiate up to your max offer.

Offline cheenman

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Re: how much equity do I need?
« Reply #6 on: August 04, 2007, 06:01:11 pm »
I'm a newbie so I may not know what I'm talking about, but if this place is worth $310 ARV and only needs $15k worth of fix up does the .70% ratio still stand up. I mean a bird in the hand is worth 2 in the bush. If you figure soft costs of holding and selling of about 10-12K then wouldn't it be better to offer 230-235 (max) and come out with a profit of 50k. Please critisize (sp) from any angle.

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Re: how much equity do I need?
« Reply #7 on: August 04, 2007, 10:29:40 pm »
I'm a newbie so I may not know what I'm talking about, but if this place is worth $310 ARV and only needs $15k worth of fix up does the .70% ratio still stand up. I mean a bird in the hand is worth 2 in the bush. If you figure soft costs of holding and selling of about 10-12K then wouldn't it be better to offer 230-235 (max) and come out with a profit of 50k. Please critisize (sp) from any angle.

Here's another way of looking at it for higher $ homes:

ARV=$310
Repairs are $15K
15% profit for the Rehaber = $46,500
or a 20% profit = $62K
10% of ARV to sell the house (RE commissions & closing costs & some marketing):  $31K

Here's the math:
For 20% profit:
$310K - 62K - 15K = $233K  - $10K (wholesaler's profit) = $223K (maximum offer)

For 15% profit:
$310K - $46.5K - $15K = $248.5K - $10K (wholesaler's profit) = $238.5K (maximum offer)

Of course, I did not factor in holding costs or repair contingencies.  But this works.

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Re: how much equity do I need?
« Reply #8 on: August 05, 2007, 05:58:49 pm »
I understand the math for both the 20% and 15% profit scenarios, but why is the $31k not being subtracted. Shouldn't the max offers be minus $31k for commissions and such?

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Re: how much equity do I need?
« Reply #9 on: August 05, 2007, 10:18:59 pm »
Whoops, my bad!  Yes, subtract the $31K too.

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Re: how much equity do I need?
« Reply #10 on: August 06, 2007, 12:55:19 pm »
We are in a falling market and the most recent comp is $270k, where did the $310k figure come from?

 




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