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Offline mkasper27

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Wholesaling contracts
« on: February 05, 2004, 05:37:43 pm »
I am trying to kick off my real estate career by wholealing.  I went to the lawyer yesterday and she is writing up an assignment contract for me because she said double closings are almost non-existant due to fraud that has occured in the past.  My question is what if the investor that I am passing the deal off to wants my assignment fee rolled into his/her mortgage?  If this happens I would definitely have to do a double closing right?

If anyone knows of a title company in houston that may perform double closings I would really appreciate it if you could give me their contact info.

Thank you guys very much for any help that you may be able to give me.

Michelle Kasper

Offline Heather_Tx

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Re:Wholesaling contracts
« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2004, 04:21:10 pm »
Michelle,

  Shoot me an email and I will give you the number of a great lawyer/title company that does all the creative closings.  From sub2 to double closings, setting up needed trusts and all the documents... the works!  He is in Katy, but well worth the extra time for the drive.

Heather Zaal
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Offline ctkinvest

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Re:Wholesaling contracts
« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2004, 01:41:46 am »
Hey,

Heather or any one, do you have same contact information for dallas area?

Thnks

Cathy
Dallas, TX

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Re:Wholesaling contracts
« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2004, 12:11:48 am »
Sorry Cathy I do not have any contacts in Dallas.   Hopefully others there will have a referral for you.

Heather Zaal

Offline THE NEW KID

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Re:Wholesaling contracts
« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2004, 11:59:18 pm »
Hey Heather,

      Do you have the same contacts in illinois or indiana? If not does anyone else have those contacts. Thanks

                                                       THE NEW KID

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Re:Wholesaling contracts
« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2004, 09:48:40 pm »
Try the local REIAs in all of the areas mentioned. They usually have several title companies and/or attorneys that are members, and will be able to assist.

Barry
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Re:Wholesaling contracts
« Reply #6 on: August 24, 2004, 01:31:29 pm »
Keep this strategy in mind too. It's a good tool to have in your creative financing toolbox! From an article just posted:

Trying to flip a property can turn ugly when your end buyer cannot get financing because their lending institution requires title seasoning. Your options are to 1) find another lender; 2) find another buyer, 3) try to ‘assign’ your Contract for your profit; or 4) find a creative strategy to get your deal closed. This article is about the last option – using creative financing to overcome traditional lending institutional guideline problems including, but not limited to the title seasoning issues.

Everyone has probably heard about the strategy of creating a seller financed note to structure a deal and then selling the note at the closing table to a note investor (such as ourselves) to fund the deal. If you have not heard of this strategy, read up on it! It is a great tool to have in your back pocket when traditional financing is not possible – or not desired – for one reason or another. Assuming you are already aware of this strategy… you should also know that this is a great tool to use when FLIPPING a property – If – and only if - you have enough profit in the deal to cover the note discount. More about that later.

When I use the term ‘flipping’, I am referring to simultaneously buying a property at a discount (i.e., pre-foreclosure, distressed seller, etc.) and then selling it at it’s true fair market value to an ‘end buyer’. In this article I am not talking about rehabbing properties. The same seller financing strategy can work (more easily, actually) with rehabbed properties, but for this discussion I am referring to strait FLIPS.

The deal is set up as follows: Assume you can purchase a property for $65,000 because the seller is 2 months behind and knows he will go into foreclosure if he doesn’t act quickly. You then set up a Buyer to purchase the property from you for its true market value of $100,000. This end buyer can put down 5% in cash at closing and has reasonable credit (600+). You can either purchase the property outright and do a 2nd closing later – or set it up as a simultaneous closing and transfer the title twice at closing. Either way, your end buyer’s bank may not fund your deal because of this ‘flip’. If that happens, you can structure your deal as Seller Financed- even if there are underlying mortgages! Your title company / closing agent or note buyer will prepare the note and mortgage for you for the closing.  This particular deal for our company would be set up with an additional 5% 2nd position note to be ‘held’ by the seller. That would leave a 90% first lien. We would structure the interest rate to be between 8 and 9% depending upon the Buyer’s credit. We would buy the note for between 85% and 90% of the MORTGAGE balance ($90,000 x .87 = 78,300, for example) depending upon the property and the situation. So the flipper (that’s YOU) would have $78,300 from us PLUS $5,000 cash down payment from the Buyer – for a total cash amount of $83,300 PLUS the $5,000 2nd position lien. The underlying payoff of $65,000 would be made to the original seller at closing and the balance of $18,300 plus the $5,000 note is all yours. Not bad for a deal that you didn’t spend a dime on! While the discount on this ‘flip’ might seem a bit steep at first, keep in mind that the only alternative is to hold the note. The time value of money tells us that cash now is worth more than cash payments streaming in over time.

Rehabbed properties and properties without title seasoning problems can also be set up this way. These properties can be set up at 95%LTV (Loan to Value) – EVEN INVESTMENT RESIDENTIAL PROPERIES! The discount on the note is usually about $6,000 -$7,000 if set up properly from the beginning.

I hope you find this article informative and helpful. I hope it gets the creative juices flowing!

Michele Robbins, CPA

« Last Edit: August 24, 2004, 03:23:26 pm by TRandle »
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Offline Jeff Adam

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Re:Wholesaling contracts
« Reply #7 on: October 10, 2004, 11:26:54 am »
I think Michelle's question was in regards to 'Wholesaling' not retailing.....

So here you go Michelle:

#1- You want to work with serious investors that can close.  Once you line up the deal, forget about the double closing.  Simply 'assign' your escrow.  You simply tie-up the property, open escrow, contact your wholesale buyer, collect your fee, assign, and have them close!  Then simply tell your seller you are closing in your partners name for tax reasons...

#2- If you are doing a deal that will not allow you to 'assign' then this is simple.  Just close the deal in your name with a private investor loan or hard-money loan.  Then grant-deed the property to your 'wholesale buyer' and  have them assume the financing in place.   I use to do this when I wholesaled HUD, VA or bank-owned REO's as these deals you could not 'assign'.


In regards to the above posts regarding 'seasoning'.  The key is to get before and after pictures and keep your receipts of the rehab if you are going to 'retail'.  Also, you want to control the sale and make sure your 'retail' buyer submits their loan to a conventional lender such as :  Flagstar, WAMU, Charter One, Greenpoint, Bridge Captital that do not have such strict seasoning requirements.

You are on the right track Michelle.   Take some courses on wholesaling and this can be very profitable for you.


Best Riches,
Jeff Adam
« Last Edit: October 16, 2004, 11:39:35 pm by Jeff Adam »
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