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Title: Does anyone even know (Mark Evans DM)
Post by: cleo on April 09, 2006, 08:56:45 am
Hello All,

Has anyone heard or participated in mark evans REVERSE REAL ESTATE INVESTING COURSE. I would love to hear how any of his students are doing with his course or has anyone heard any negativity about his course, i would appreciate any insight on his course.


Cleo
Title: Re:Does anyone even know (Mark Evans DM)
Post by: jrsmitty21 on April 26, 2006, 04:50:13 pm
Cleo, I received the Reverse Real Estate System this past weekend.  Do yourself a favor, don't purchase this piece of garbage.  I listened to the audio thus far and I am requesting my money back.  Mark may be making money with his system, but there is no way he is qualified to develope a course and sell it to the public for hundereds of dollars.  I'm not even going to waste my time with the book.  The course seems slapped together.  The structure is horrible, Mark has a difficult time getting his points across because he doesn't know what to say and how to teach.  The only redeeming quality I see in this course is to play a drinking game with your buddies to the audio and to take a drink everytime Marks says, "simply".  He likes using the expressing "I simply....." when he doesn't know what to say next.  It's a great buy if you want some quality unintentional comedy.  Now, Mark said that he would refund money to anybody that was not satisfied with the course.  Let's see if he is a man of his word.
Title: Re:Does anyone even know (Mark Evans DM)
Post by: cleo on April 26, 2006, 05:14:37 pm
Hi jrsmitty21,

Well thanks for the reminder, but I took my chances with "joe crump" push button system I just bought it a couple of weeks ago and it is similar to mark evans but joes system is hard core explains it to the tee step by step live on the phone with his students showing you.
you need to take a look at it. (nothing like it) I am putting my first deal together this week.

cleo
Title: Re:Does anyone even know (Mark Evans DM)
Post by: Godson on April 26, 2006, 05:29:30 pm
I signed up for mark evan wholesale real estate deals for 197, they tricked me, they told me that they had 36 wholesale deals in my city, when i signed up a week later they said they sold them all.  Joe crump real good guy, he is located in my city indianapolis, IN.  So his course is decent?  I was think about buying it. How much was it. I am wholesaler in indianapolis.  I wholesale 1-2 deals a month,  so what kind of deal are you putting together
Title: Re:Does anyone even know (Mark Evans DM)
Post by: cleo on April 26, 2006, 05:41:54 pm
Well I am assigning my lease option agreement this week to a end buyer for 3,500 and I never left my home.



cleo
Title: Re:Does anyone even know (Mark Evans DM)
Post by: jrsmitty21 on April 26, 2006, 05:43:01 pm
I just got off the phone with Mark Evans.  He is going to give me a refund of my money.  I think he took it a little personal when I told him that the course seemed slapped together and didn't have good structure.  He told me I was "pissing my money away" with one of the other courses that I am involved in.  He also told me that I will never be able to buy from him again.  Needlese to say I wasn't crushed by this news. Good for you getting that deal.  And good luck in the future.

I just got an email confirming that I have been banned from any future purchases....ahahha.  
Title: Re:Does anyone even know (Mark Evans DM)
Post by: The King on April 29, 2006, 09:23:54 am
I just got off the phone with Mark Evans.  He is going to give me a refund of my money.  I think he took it a little personal when I told him that the course seemed slapped together and didn't have good structure.  He told me I was "pissing my money away" with one of the other courses that I am involved in.  He also told me that I will never be able to buy from him again.  Needlese to say I wasn't crushed by this news. Good for you getting that deal.  And good luck in the future.

I just got an email confirming that I have been banned from any future purchases....ahahha.  


lol If that's true, that's pretty immature of him.
Title: Re:Does anyone even know (Mark Evans DM)
Post by: rhm76384 on April 29, 2006, 09:30:18 am
Hey,
     It has been my experience and observation that a good many of those who have rei info to sell (whether the product is good or bad) believe that their poo doesn't stink and is of higher quality than all others.
Peace,
Richard
Title: Re:Does anyone even know (Mark Evans DM)
Post by: rkim777 on November 04, 2006, 10:45:15 am
Cleo, I received the Reverse Real Estate System this past weekend.  Do yourself a favor, don't purchase this piece of garbage.  I listened to the audio thus far and I am requesting my money back.  Mark may be making money with his system, but there is no way he is qualified to develope a course and sell it to the public for hundereds of dollars.  I'm not even going to waste my time with the book.  The course seems slapped together.  The structure is horrible, Mark has a difficult time getting his points across because he doesn't know what to say and how to teach.

I'm listening to Mark on a teleconference now as I type this.  I have to agree that he rambles on with very little useful information.  I am still intrigued with his idea, though.  Most gurus already say to have buyers waiting for houses you buy anyway but I'm wondering if Mark has new ways to get buyers into your database.  It seems that the main idea of his system is to find buyers BEFORE finding the houses.  Or is his stuff just a reiteration of common sense and what the other gurus teach?

I am tempted to stroke a check for his course out of curiosity but would be pretty p.o.'d if it is just a reiteration of what people like LeGrand, etc., already teach.
Title: Re:Does anyone even know (Mark Evans DM)
Post by: wallacehobbs on November 20, 2006, 11:40:49 am
I was also wondering if anyone has any feedback onMark Evans DM Subject 2 courses?  ???

I just ordered his New Book on Sat and got his Free Sub 2 course at
http://www.sub2magic.com/?thankyou-page=2567 (http://www.sub2magic.com/?thankyou-page=2567) and it looks good.

He claims the information sells for $397.00 by other educators?

I have been getting his e-mails for well over a year and never looked into his stuff until last Sat on his live call.

Anyway, I was wondering if any of you have heard about him and what you thought?

I appreciate any first hand feedback about him!  ;)
Title: Re:Does anyone even know (Mark Evans DM)
Post by: Purspeed on November 20, 2006, 09:47:26 pm
I just got off the phone with Mark Evans.  He is going to give me a refund of my money.  I think he took it a little personal when I told him that the course seemed slapped together and didn't have good structure.  He told me I was "pissing my money away" with one of the other courses that I am involved in.  He also told me that I will never be able to buy from him again.  Needlese to say I wasn't crushed by this news. Good for you getting that deal.  And good luck in the future.

I just got an email confirming that I have been banned from any future purchases....ahahha.  


If his information is solid, then he needn't worry about issuing refunds because the client will eventually come back.
Title: Re:Does anyone even know (Mark Evans DM)
Post by: NoMoneyDown on November 21, 2006, 10:23:21 am
I HATE people like this guy who farm for email addresses to send spam to.  I have never signed up for any of his stuff, yet get hit with spam at least once a day from him.  Very unprofessional, and to me reflects on the type of person he is.
Title: Re:Does anyone even know (Mark Evans DM)
Post by: Paul_Strauss on November 21, 2006, 05:52:16 pm
I know Mark Evans personally, and the guy is a genius.  I'm not just saying that because I'm featured in his latest book ;D  Seriously, I've been sitting with the guy having dinner in Chicago watching one wholesale deal after another come through.

He is NOT good if all you're looking for is a slick-talking salesman promising to solve all of your problems.

You're darn skippy you're off the list for good if you return stuff to him.  He's primarily about teaching people so he can actually DO DEALS with them.  He's really not interested in 'customer service'- and if you want to chase him down for your $97 bucks or $197 or whatever rather than actually APPLY the material then you're out of his life.

The latest book (did I mention I'm featured in it?  8)  ) is a prime example of what he's really about-- it's down to earth, it's real life, and it'll help you if, instead of reading / listening to the material as a snobish "reviewer" or with a drunk-a** frat boy mentality you actually pay attention and apply the content to actual REAL ESTATE INVESTING in a systematic way.  AND the book will help others because 100% of the proceeds from the book go to CHARITY-- Frank McKinney's (also featured in the book- http://www.frank-mckinney.com ) Caring House Project Foundation.

Michael Gerber- author of The E-Myth Revisited; and Kendra Todd (Winner of The Apprentice) are also featured in the book.

Bottom line is that I didn't build WCRT peddling schlock from BS Artists; and I wouldn't have participated as a contributor, or been featured in this book if Mark wasn't the real deal.

Go get it- help yourself, and help a worthwhile charity:  Do the bonus offer and give two of them away!
Title: Re: Does anyone even know (Mark Evans DM)
Post by: topgun1928 on May 27, 2008, 11:55:08 am
DON'T WASTE YOUR MONEY!!   MARK EVANS KNOWS NOTHING ABOUT REAL ESTATE.  HE IS A WANNA BE INTERNET INFO MARKETER SLINGING WHATEVER WILL SELL ONLINE.   I did my due diligence.  Here is an email another investor sent me on him:

>>>>After doing about 15 minutes of "research" - here is what I found...
 
Mark's latest "memorial day 2008" email supposedly sent from Florence Italy (Mark has been traveling the world for the last 2.5 years you know?)   is a COMPLETE LIE.   

In the email - he wishes his Mother Happy Birthday from Italy but my research found that his Mother's birthday was NOT May 26.   His Mother's name is Beverly and her birthday is 11/14/1951.
 
Mark S. Evans is a 29 year old kid still wet behind the ears - born June 19, 1978.   His last known address is:
 
51 Community Dr.
Kirkersville, OH  43033
740-927-1683
 
Which is a 3/1 - 1,764 sf home worth $117,000  (My pool is worth more than this house).
 
The home is owned by a "Bennie Evans Jr. and Beverly Evans" - 59 and 56 yrs old respectively and right around the age of what could be Mark's parents?  I can't  be sure but I would bet they are his parents.
 
DOES THIS MEAN WORLD TRAVELING MARK EVANS - THE INTERNET REAL ESTATE GURU - STILL LIVES WITH HIS PARENTS??
 
Maybe or maybe not. 
 
Other than the 4701 Olentangy River Rd., Columbus, OH address - which appears to be a commercial office - the next residential address for "Mr. Evans" is:
 
209 S. High St., # 311
Columbus, OH
 
Which appears to be residential apartments over walkup retail.     
 
So maybe "World Traveling Mr. Evans" still lives in a crackerbox apartment?

It is hard to tell where he lives because Mark Evans uses rent-a-mailbox type outlets like UPS Store etc. as the main OFFICE address for all of his businesses.
 
"Mr. Evans"  apparently has started at least one company - "Strategic Home Buyers LLC" yet a quick search of Franklin and Licking County Ohio official records and tax assessor sites shows no records for a Strategic Home Buyers or Mark Evans EVER owning real estate.
 
Now to give "Mr. Evans" the benefit of the doubt - he could be buying properties in a Land Trust which would give him some anonymity - which would be very smart on his part.
 
Or - and what I think is more plausible - is "Mr. Evans" is a wanna-be wholesaler who feeds off the scraps of true real estate investors by earning pennies through contract assignments - which obviously would only appear on a HUD and not of record.

This guy is yet another scammer in a long line of failed real estate investors who can't seem to make money doing deals so they vomit their limited knowledge into a "Real Estate Course" and sell it to unsuspecting people online.

I wouldn't waste a penny on this guy. 
Title: Re: Does anyone even know (Mark Evans DM)
Post by: kdhastedt on May 27, 2008, 03:18:29 pm

How much dust did you have to blow off the post that you responded to?  It was 18 months old!

Keith
Title: Re: Does anyone even know (Mark Evans DM)
Post by: topgun1928 on May 29, 2008, 01:40:48 pm
If it means saving countless others from being scammed - blowing off a little dust is worth it.

It is only right that people know the truth.
Title: Re: Does anyone even know (Mark Evans DM)
Post by: kdhastedt on May 29, 2008, 01:57:05 pm
Un huh...I'm pretty sure that's what the thread says...

Keith
Title: Re: Does anyone even know (Mark Evans DM)
Post by: wallacehobbs on June 11, 2008, 08:47:26 am
DON'T WASTE YOUR MONEY!!   MARK EVANS KNOWS NOTHING ABOUT REAL ESTATE.  HE IS A WANNA BE INTERNET INFO MARKETER SLINGING WHATEVER WILL SELL ONLINE.   I did my due diligence.  Here is an email another investor sent me on him:

>>>>After doing about 15 minutes of "research" - here is what I found...
 
Mark's latest "memorial day 2008" email supposedly sent from Florence Italy (Mark has been traveling the world for the last 2.5 years you know?)   is a COMPLETE LIE.   

In the email - he wishes his Mother Happy Birthday from Italy but my research found that his Mother's birthday was NOT May 26.   His Mother's name is Beverly and her birthday is 11/14/1951.
 
Mark S. Evans is a 29 year old kid still wet behind the ears - born June 19, 1978.   His last known address is:
 
51 Community Dr.
Kirkersville, OH  43033
740-927-1683
 
Which is a 3/1 - 1,764 sf home worth $117,000  (My pool is worth more than this house).
 
The home is owned by a "Bennie Evans Jr. and Beverly Evans" - 59 and 56 yrs old respectively and right around the age of what could be Mark's parents?  I can't  be sure but I would bet they are his parents.
 
DOES THIS MEAN WORLD TRAVELING MARK EVANS - THE INTERNET REAL ESTATE GURU - STILL LIVES WITH HIS PARENTS??
 
Maybe or maybe not. 
 
Other than the 4701 Olentangy River Rd., Columbus, OH address - which appears to be a commercial office - the next residential address for "Mr. Evans" is:
 
209 S. High St., # 311
Columbus, OH
 
Which appears to be residential apartments over walkup retail.     
 
So maybe "World Traveling Mr. Evans" still lives in a crackerbox apartment?

It is hard to tell where he lives because Mark Evans uses rent-a-mailbox type outlets like UPS Store etc. as the main OFFICE address for all of his businesses.
 
"Mr. Evans"  apparently has started at least one company - "Strategic Home Buyers LLC" yet a quick search of Franklin and Licking County Ohio official records and tax assessor sites shows no records for a Strategic Home Buyers or Mark Evans EVER owning real estate.
 
Now to give "Mr. Evans" the benefit of the doubt - he could be buying properties in a Land Trust which would give him some anonymity - which would be very smart on his part.
 
Or - and what I think is more plausible - is "Mr. Evans" is a wanna-be wholesaler who feeds off the scraps of true real estate investors by earning pennies through contract assignments - which obviously would only appear on a HUD and not of record.

This guy is yet another scammer in a long line of failed real estate investors who can't seem to make money doing deals so they vomit their limited knowledge into a "Real Estate Course" and sell it to unsuspecting people online.

I wouldn't waste a penny on this guy. 


Wow topgun that is a little harsh. Tell us how you really feel   :biggrin

May we ask what is your level as an investor and what is it you do I wonder?

(Also can I swim in your $118,000 Pool it must be HUGE   :cool )
Title: Re: Does anyone even know (Mark Evans DM)
Post by: stripey on June 12, 2008, 02:11:16 am
Actually, I have to give kudos to topgun1928 for his internet detective work.

Topgun1928 did his due dilligence on someone claiming to be a professional exactly like he should have. Topgun1928 doesn't have to be a professional investor with million dollar deals to call a spade a spade. He's just pointing out facts that he found.

People like topgun1928 who take the time to research these "gurus" and post their findings publicly should be encouraged, not scorned.
Title: Re: Does anyone even know (Mark Evans DM)
Post by: j1dias on June 12, 2008, 08:44:30 am
Now lets do some detective work on topgun1928 to confirm that he is someone we can trust... :O)

Hey just kidding... I agree with your comment, strippey... Kudos to anyone that takes the time to research and share the results...

Have a wonderful day!
Title: Re: Does anyone even know (Mark Evans DM)
Post by: brujohnson123 on June 12, 2008, 10:48:34 am
I totally agree, Mr. Mark Evans has been flooding my email box with all types of material that I have found to be repeats of other investor guru site emails that I have gotten. I would recommend to anyone not to fall short like I did and purchased material that ended up being a lost cause. Since I am a newbie I will be the first to say that I am not an expert however by the time I get all my knowledge I am confident enough that I will be.

I have been on several of Marks Evans conference calls that he claims to be in these foreign countries that we can call or go on the web. Some of the information that he passes along is good but I seriously began to doubt that he is actually travelling the world like he claims.

One of the biggest mistakes that I have made is that I purchased the two websites buyers Leads and Seller Leads for $67 a month.  :banghead however, what i have found out i can get all that information for way cheaper but I was facinated by the idea without logically thinking things through. :banghead However, after I did my due dillegence I was able to cancel and to be honest I have gotten more leads on my own than the ones that I actually got from Marks sites. :beer
Title: Re: Does anyone even know (Mark Evans DM)
Post by: Lamar on June 12, 2008, 05:57:32 pm
Sorry Keith, but I have to chime in on this one.  See my responses in red...

Objection Your Honor!

Top gun you're WRONG! WRONG WRONG! :banghead

TopGun, How many google searches will it take for you to see the truth. Your research is off in my book. Your intent is good, but I believe your facts are inadequate...No offense bro!

First off, let me make it clear that I am not an attorney, I am not on Mark Evan's staff, nor am I trying to pick a fight. However, I do feel that I need to "set the record straight."

I'm actually one of Mark's mentor students and have been since 2006!

He is an awesome mentor and one of the greatest real estate investors in today's Market.

 All the posts in this thread need to be addressed, so I will do my best to address each an every concern, question, or issue starting with (Top Gun)!!

Let me warn you that this will be a long post as I have a lot to cover. Especially since, I've been a student of Mark Evan's for the past 2 Years!.  So grab some snacks or some drinks, turn the tv off, kick back in your chair, or in your couch and read EVERY Word I am about to tell you. My Comments will be in RED. Ok, here we go. Let's see if I can pull this off:


DON'T WASTE YOUR MONEY!!   MARK EVANS KNOWS NOTHING ABOUT REAL ESTATE.  HE IS A WANNA BE INTERNET INFO MARKETER SLINGING WHATEVER WILL SELL ONLINE.   I did my due diligence.  You did your due dilligence?? I hope you take more consideration and accuracy when you do due dilligence on your REI deals. -Lamar

Here is an email another investor sent me on him:

>>>>After doing about 15 minutes of "research" [b](15 minutes.lol That's it?...Please continue Topgun - Lamar)[/b] - here is what I found...

Timeout! Let me cut in for a minute. First of all I'm sure you used Google or maybe Yahoo, nonetheless I'm certain it was a search engine, but who am I to site your sources... go on...
 
Mark's latest "memorial day 2008" email supposedly sent from Florence Italy (Mark has been traveling the world for the last 2.5 years you know?)   is a COMPLETE LIE.   

Actually he has been traveling for 2.5 years and he just left Italy for Rome. Here is proof of him in Italy. I lived in Europe for 3 years, so I know this is authentic. It's a 30 second video: http://www.markevansdm.com/meals/

Stay tuned for Part 2---- (The max characters are 20K  :banghead)
Title: Re: Does anyone even know (Mark Evans DM)
Post by: Lamar on June 12, 2008, 06:07:22 pm
The reason Mark is able to travel while still doing deals is because he has systems in place to assist him. Virtual Assistants, Birddogs, Partners, His Students, etc. Plus his reverse system is designed to work from anywhere. all you need is a phone and a PC w/Internet and you're in business.!

A true Business Owner knows that they should always work "ON" their business, not "IN" their business, which is a perfect example of what Mark Evans DM does. Continue TopGun... -Lamar


In the email - he wishes his Mother Happy Birthday from Italy but my research found that his Mother's birthday was NOT May 26.   His Mother's name is Beverly and her birthday is 11/14/1951.

 :bs :bs :bs :bs :bs

This one really caught me by shock. lol

Sandy Evans is the actual name of Mark's Mother. Where the heck did you get Beverly. Maybe that's his aunt, or cousin, or just some random lady named Beverly Evans with no relation. lol

Mark told us about his mother Sandy on numerous occassions. He even said so on Mother's Day. Tell your friend to send you the Mother's day email too. It came out 2 weeks before the Memorial day email you mentioned. In fact, here's a snippet:

Sunday May 11th, 2008

Mark says,

"...I just wanted to share that with you and say again,
Happy Mother's Day and to say out loud to 2 of the
most beautiful women in the world my mother
Sandy Evans, I love you and I am glad you let me
dream. As well as my fiance's mother Diane Long,
we Love you and thank you for raising such a great
daughter."

Wow look at that....No Beverly??

Again this was in my inbox, and depending on how long your friend has been with Mark Evans DM, he would have this too...In Black & White
:deal
 

Stay Tuned for Part 3
Title: Re: Does anyone even know (Mark Evans DM)
Post by: Lamar on June 12, 2008, 06:11:20 pm
Mark S. Evans is a 29 year old kid still wet behind the ears - born June 19, 1978.   Your Birthday Research was SPOT on Topgun. It really is June 19th! Last year he interviewed Frank Mckinney on his b-day. He's been investing in Real Estate since he was 18. That's like11 years. I wouldn't say he's "wet behind the ears" I'd say he's a pro, give that he's reached millionaire status. That man knows his stuff! -Lamar  

 His last known address is:
 
51 Community Dr.
Kirkersville, OH  43033
740-927-1683
 
Which is a 3/1 - 1,764 sf home worth $117,000  (My pool is worth more than this house).

Your pool is worth more than $117,000.  :shocked Holy crap, can I come over and swim? seriously... :beer

Now Mark has never shown his home, that I know of. Since I've been with him, he's been hopping around the U.S and now he is over in Rome, so..I can't validate this one. However, maybe it was a great deal. It's just him and his fiance, so they really don't need to much room, but then again maybe this is just a random property that he never even lived in. lol

The free public records still have me in New Jersey and I haven't lived there since 2001. Also in a part of VA that I haven't lived in since 2003. So to say this stuff is accurate is   :bs


The home is owned by a "Bennie Evans Jr. and Beverly Evans" - 59 and 56 yrs old respectively and right around the age of what could be Mark's parents?  I can't  be sure but I would bet they are his parents.
 
Yeah you're way off... No Beverly :-) I don't know his father's name. Could be Mark for all I know. lol Those could also be the ages of his parents too...Who cares how old they are though...I mean really. lol -Lamar

DOES THIS MEAN WORLD TRAVELING MARK EVANS - THE INTERNET REAL ESTATE GURU - STILL LIVES WITH HIS PARENTS??
 
Maybe or maybe not. 

Try "Maybe Not -Lamar"
 
Other than the 4701 Olentangy River Rd., Columbus, OH address - which appears to be a commercial office - the next residential address for "Mr. Evans" is:
 
209 S. High St., # 311
Columbus, OH
 
Which appears to be residential apartments over walkup retail.     
 
So maybe "World Traveling Mr. Evans" still lives in a crackerbox apartment?

 :bs I'll bet my house that he doesn't. lol

Let's move on to Part 4
Title: Re: Does anyone even know (Mark Evans DM)
Post by: Lamar on June 12, 2008, 06:15:17 pm

First off,  it's hard to say he's not traveling. He actually went to Haiti a couple months back. He went with....hmmm what was his name.....Ahh yes, another great Real Estate Investor of all time: Frank Mckinney!  He was also in Paris a few weeks before he went to Italy. Here's proof:
 

(http://www.markevansdm.com/images/Deena_and_Mark_Eifel_215x250.jpg)

Need more...

(http://www.markevansdm.com/images/Deena_Mark_Paris_500x330.jpg)

No photshop here bro! 100% Mark & Deena in Paris . I've been to Paris twice and this looks exactly the same to me! -Lamar

It is hard to tell where he lives because Mark Evans uses rent-a-mailbox type outlets like UPS Store etc. as the main OFFICE address for all of his businesses.
 
Good idea or bad idea...I wouldn't want my personal address out there like that either, but hey... To eaches own!.[/b][/color]

"Mr. Evans"  apparently has started at least one company - "Strategic Home Buyers LLC" yet a quick search of Franklin and Licking County Ohio official records and tax assessor sites shows no records for a Strategic Home Buyers or Mark Evans EVER owning real estate.
 
Not sure about this one. I know he goes by Racine Assets, LLC. Mark also specializes in investing in real estate without ever owning or using your own cash. Again, I don't know about the Strategic Home Buyer LLC, so...no comment  

Now to give "Mr. Evans" the benefit of the doubt - he could be buying properties in a Land Trust which would give him some anonymity - which would be very smart on his parts

I don't think he does land trust too much, but I do believe he invests in them sometimes.
 
Or - and what I think is more plausible - is "Mr. Evans" is a wanna-be wholesaler who feeds off the scraps of true real estate investors by earning pennies through contract assignments - which obviously would only appear on a HUD and not of record.

If you get paid  your assignment fee up front, it doesn't show on the hud, right? As far as I know,  Mark always get's paid upfront. So if he's a wanna be, then I wanna be just like him... A freakin millionaire who invests ethically and with integrity and always pushes his students to do the same. Mark has students of all ages...up to 70 yrs. old.  

Time for Part 5
Title: Re: Does anyone even know (Mark Evans DM)
Post by: Lamar on June 12, 2008, 06:16:46 pm
This guy is yet another scammer in a long line of failed real estate investors who can't seem to make money doing deals so they vomit their limited knowledge into a "Real Estate Course" and sell it to unsuspecting people online.

That's funny....In my Newsletter, I expose scams because they disgust me. I alert my investor list of common scams/scammers. I also exposed a scammer on another forum and he actually got arrested because somebody googled his name and found my posting. They actually came in contact with the guy. lol.

Wait a minute...you don't believe me. Don't worry, here's proof: http://www.wannanetwork.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=8529 I love to expose scams/scammers.

If Mark was one, he would have damn sure been exposed by me. But he's not one, so I didn't! :cool -Lamar
 


I wouldn't waste a penny on this guy. 

I actually purchased his Reverse Real Estate Course. It has completely restructured my business and has put cash in my pocket on a number of occasions. I'm actually trying to close on a Reverse deal, either this week or next week. So whatever I purchased the course for, was recoverd by doing deals, just like he said in the course.  :bobble

Did you know he offers weekly support to all his students who purchased the course? It's a Q & A session, where we ask him questions for understanding, wisdom, motivation, encouragement, insight, special tips, etc... in regards to Reverse Real Estate, wholesaling, Sub 2 deals, etc.  Talk about customer service :-)

On top of that, he focuses on Marketing, which is crucial for any business. Internet Marketing is highly effective, whether your marketing a property or a product.


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wallacehobbs:

Wow topgun that is a little harsh. Tell us how you really feel   :biggrin

May we ask what is your level as an investor and what is it you do I wonder?


(Also can I swim in your $118,000 Pool it must be HUGE   :cool )

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I'm curious too and I'll be happy to come over and jump in the pool with you bro. Top Gun, "Can we come by". I don't know about wallace, but I'm serious! It's pretty hot over in VA.

Un huh...I'm pretty sure that's what the thread says...

Keith

Kieth your Awesome no matter what anyone says!  :cool

Let's see who's next...

I know Mark Evans personally, and the guy is a genius.  I'm not just saying that because I'm featured in his latest book ;D  Seriously, I've been sitting with the guy having dinner in Chicago watching one wholesale deal after another come through.

He is NOT good if all you're looking for is a slick-talking salesman promising to solve all of your problems.

Hi Paul :-) Yup, Paul is in the book too. The book was also a #1 Bestseller on Amazon. Do you think Kendra Todd would associate herself with a scammer. If she was that naive, you would have surely heard Donald Trump say, "Kendra...Your Fired! :flush"

It's a great book that everyone needs to get. The contributions all go to charity....

Also, the charity they supported was a village in Haiti. There goes Mark again...Traveling around the world in Haiti...not a cracker box apartment. lol

Wait a minute...you don't believe me do you. lol Come on now, You know Lamar always brings the facts: http://lamartheinvestor.blogspot.com/2008/03/sometimes-its-not-about-how-much-you.html

Stay tuned for part 6
Title: Re: Does anyone even know (Mark Evans DM)
Post by: Lamar on June 12, 2008, 06:22:37 pm
I HATE people like this guy who farm for email addresses to send spam to.  I have never signed up for any of his stuff, yet get hit with spam at least once a day from him.  Very unprofessional, and to me reflects on the type of person he is.

Farm emails??  I doubt that... lol However, If you go to someone's website and subscribe then you will surely recieve something from them via email. They don't ask for your name and email, just for kicks. I get emails from Reiclub.com all the time...Why? Because they have my name and email address. :-)

Also, Mark Evans uses double opt in. For those of you that don't know, double opt in is when you subscribe to someone's website, inputting your name and email (opt in). Then there is an automatic email that is sent to your inbox. This email is just asking if you really want to opt in. If so, you just click the confirmation link then you have "Opted in" for a second time, just reaffirming your desion to recieve informaton or subscribe accordingly.

Now, I know you said that you never signed up... Are you sure? Secondly, if he did send you emails, all you would have to do is scroll down to the bottom and Unsubscribe!

*Poof* no more emails :-) He also has virtual assistants working for him, so who knows how that happened, but as far as I know...from personal experience...His Virtual Assistants are on point & awesome! Again, if this happens, just scroll to the bottom of the email and unsubscribe.
If you continue to get emails, then you can just submit a trouble ticket on his webstie and make a complaint...
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I just got off the phone with Mark Evans.  He is going to give me a refund of my money.  I think he took it a little personal when I told him that the course seemed slapped together and didn't have good structure.  He told me I was "pissing my money away" with one of the other courses that I am involved in.  He also told me that I will never be able to buy from him again.  Needless to say I wasn't crushed by this news. Good for you getting that deal.  And good luck in the future.

I just got an email confirming that I have been banned from any future purchases....ahahha.

[b](So basically you're telling me that a scammer, wished you the best and gave you money back??? Well I never. lol This again proves that the guy isn't a scammer! -Lamar) [/b]


If his information is solid, then he needn't worry about issuing refunds because the client will eventually come back.

Refunds aren't based on how solid owner thinks there product is. They're based on Customer Satisfacton. I don't think he's too worried about issuing refunds because he did in fact give the guy a refund... When have you heard of a scammer giving money back??? lol. Also, who would be happy about giving a refund on a sale. He's human, just like you and I, so I'm sure he wondered what the heck did this guy have an issue with, due to the fact that he has students, to include myself, who have monetized deals, using his course.   
Walmart gives refunds, and the customer service people always have attitudes too. Lol -Lamar


Business is business. Nobody likes to lose a sale!

Part 7 Anyone?
Title: Re: Does anyone even know (Mark Evans DM)
Post by: Lamar on June 12, 2008, 06:26:31 pm
Cleo, I received the Reverse Real Estate System this past weekend.  Do yourself a favor, don't purchase this piece of garbage.  I listened to the audio thus far and I am requesting my money back.  Mark may be making money with his system, but there is no way he is qualified to develope a course and sell it to the public for hundereds of dollars.  I'm not even going to waste my time with the book.  The course seems slapped together.  The structure is horrible, Mark has a difficult time getting his points across because he doesn't know what to say and how to teach.

It works for some  people and for others it just....doesn't. In the end it all falls on the individual who is studying the course. -Lamar.

I'm listening to Mark on a teleconference now as I type this.  I have to agree that he rambles on with very little useful information.  I am still intrigued with his idea, though.  Most gurus already say to have buyers waiting for houses you buy anyway but I'm wondering if Mark has new ways to get buyers into your database. BINGO -Lamar It seems that the main idea of his system is to find buyers BEFORE finding the houses.  Or is his stuff just a reiteration of common sense and what the other gurus teach? :flush

I am tempted to stroke a check for his course out of curiosity but would be pretty p.o.'d if it is just a reiteration of what people like LeGrand, etc., already teach.

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I suggest you check out the course, you'll thank me later :-) All this stuff is common sense, but common to who? Only to people who get it, and are doing it. I'm no expert, but when I actually understand something that I might have been struggling with for some time, once I finally get it, I look back on it and laugh because it was so easy and I made it so hard...

Well I am assigning my lease option agreement this week to a end buyer for 3,500 and I never left my home.
cleo

Good for you Cleo! :-) Hope that deal went through. This is actually some of the strategies that Mark teaches along with some other streams of income!

and last but certainly not least...

I totally agree, Mr. Mark Evans has been flooding my email box with all types of material (This is called EMAIL MARKETING! -Lamar) that I have found to be repeats of other investor guru site emails that I have gotten. ( "I really haven't seen anything like what Mark Does..-Lamar")

I would recommend to anyone not to fall short like I did and purchased material that ended up being a lost cause. Just because you weren't successful at it does not mean that others will be unsuccessful. People tend to discourage others by speaking off of recent pitfalls that they may have experienced... Your new to this, as you said brujohnson, so dust your self off and keep moving forward. Ask for help. I'm speaking to you based off of my success with Mark Evans DM. Was it a walk in the park? Hell No! It was rough as hell, but once I got over that hump (which just happened to be myself. lol) then that is when I started doing better-Lamar
Since I am a newbie I will be the first to say that I am not an expert however by the time I get all my knowledge I am confident enough that I will be. [b]"As Mark Evans would say, "You don't have to get it right, you just have to get it going." and no that was not his quote. I forget where he got it from, but he always reminds us of this single quote. If you understand this, your success will come faster. Don't be naive, be smart, educate yourself and take action any chance you can get. -Lamar [/b]  

I have been on several of Marks Evans conference calls that he claims to be in these foreign countries that we can call or go on the web. Some of the information that he passes along is good (now your getting it  :biggrin) but I seriously began to doubt that he is actually travelling the world like he claims.  Nevermind.... :banghead lol j/k

One of the biggest mistakes that I have made is that I purchased the two websites buyers Leads and Seller Leads for $67 a month.  :banghead (No don't  :banghead! This was perfect decision, some Investors don't even have websites. -Lamar) however, what i have found out i can get all that information for way cheaper (Whatever works for you man. Mark always said that you don't even have to use his websites, he could care less, he just suggests that you have one and move forward! I'm not speaking for him, this is what he tells us. -Lamar ) but I was facinated by the idea without logically thinking things through. :banghead (Sometimes fear will cause us to rethink decisons we have made. The fear of not knowing... It sucks, I know, but you have to fight through it, ask the right questions :help, and handle your business.! )

You thought it through, but you doubted your own potential...I bet! I've been there bro. Everytime I had doubts about something, I always pointed the finger at everyone else. Once I realized i was the problem, that is when I became the solution!
 

However, after I did my due dillegence I was able to cancel (Were you hasseled? I doubt it... -Lamar)   and to be honest I have gotten more leads on my own than the ones that I actually got from Marks sites. :beer (Hey man, good for you! Keep doing what you're doing. Mark Evans DM isn't for everyone. Some people will get the guy and some people won't. He understands that and i think that is what keeps pushing him to move forward because he only seeks the ones that do get him! He says this all the time: "My emails aren't for everyone, but it is for someone!" I suggest you get back with him, but overall you did what you need to do. Whether it's Mark Evans DM or someone else, I suggest you get a Mentor to help you out, or a Coach. All the "big people" have a team behind them. They didn't reach the top by themselves. -Lamar

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Ok, so everybody just seen me provide facts and my own personal opinion/experiences based on Mark Evans DM. I tried to provide you with as much proof as possible.  He is the real deal and it's either you get the guy or you don't.

Is he Arrogant! Yes!
Can he be very blunt? Yes!

Is he straight forward and always willing to tell it like it is. Abslolutely!

Is he one of my Mentors? You're Damn Right!

Nobody wants hype and fluff.  He's very passionate about what he does. You can hear it in his voice all the time.

Especially when he gets mad! lol He got really  mad at us when we were procrastinating, and being lazy with our marketing, not following up with leads, not asking quesitons on the call (By the way he hates when you don't ask questions. lol), so basically he put together a private call and lit some fire under are butts. I had people looking at my deal 72 hrs later and I closed on that same deal,  2 weeks later!

Wait, let me guess...You don't think it was that impacting... Well, here is the intro to the call. You'll hear how pissed he was...

www.markevansdm.com/givememore (part 1)

http://www.markevansdm.com/givemore/message2.html (Part 2, you may have to download)

Now the actual private call was taken down, but again it lit some fire under me!

Next time we try to bash someone we need to have facts, not google queries and people who didn't really give the product a try... (from what it sounds like to me)

With that said, have a great day! Go do some Deals!, Solve some problems, and collect your checks! :beer

To your Success,

J.Lamar Ferren
New Breed Real Estate Investor

Beer anyone?  :beer
Title: Re: Does anyone even know (Mark Evans DM)
Post by: j1dias on June 12, 2008, 11:12:29 pm
Ok, so everybody just seen me provide facts and my own personal opinion/experiences based on Mark Evans DM.

I know... I know... I shouldn't be making any comments here... But I couldn't resist...

Lamar, please forgive me but I have to ask... Do you really think that what you wrote can be called FACTS? You made several statements, included some pictures of a couple, stated that you have been to some of the places, invited yourself to topgun's magificent pool... Are you sure those are facts?

If I tell you that I am a millionaire and send you a picture of a guy in a yatch, would you take that as a fact?

And to end on a high note - I did enjoy reading your posts. It is always interesting to read other people's perspectives and opinions. Have a nice evening! And good luck with your investments.
Title: Re: Does anyone even know (Mark Evans DM)
Post by: Lamar on June 13, 2008, 02:33:33 am

I know... I know... I shouldn't be making any comments here... But I couldn't resist...

Lamar, please forgive me but I have to ask... Do you really think that what you wrote can be called FACTS? You made several statements, included some pictures of a couple, stated that you have been to some of the places, invited yourself to topgun's magificent pool... Are you sure those are facts?

If I tell you that I am a millionaire and send you a picture of a guy in a yatch, would you take that as a fact?

And to end on a high note - I did enjoy reading your posts. It is always interesting to read other people's perspectives and opinions. Have a nice evening! And good luck with your investments.

I knew this was coming :biggrin lol A fact is knowledge or information based on real occurrences. I gave you Pictures, Audio, Email text, and even video... I even explained to you my own personal experiences  and success with the guy... That was the best I could do over the internet.

 Again, it wasn't an easy ride due to my own personal issues, but I worked my  way through it and continue to put $$ in my pocket using his strategies.

Now, is he the only guy out there that can make you successful? Of course not! There are plenty of other Investors/Mentors out there who can help you get to the next level. Essentially, it will all come down to...YOU!

J1dias, if you were a millionaire that sent me a picture of you being on a yacht and I actually built a business relationship with you. On top of that if you answered all my questions week after week and your advice actually put $$ in my pocket on a consistent basis, then honestly I wouldn't have too much ground to  deny that you were phony. I don't know man.

I'm really not going to harp on this much longer because I think I've done enough... Just do your best no matter who you work with and no matter how hard it seems. Work with someone you can relate too and that you feel comfortable with. Then as you become successful, help others to do the same.  :beer

I'm glad you did enjoy reading the posts... :cool

-Lamar
P.S: Any chance I can get to swim in a $117,000 pool would be awesome! :bobble
Title: Re: Does anyone even know (Mark Evans DM)
Post by: Lamar on June 13, 2008, 02:39:09 am

I know... I know... I shouldn't be making any comments here... But I couldn't resist...

Lamar, please forgive me but I have to ask... Do you really think that what you wrote can be called FACTS? You made several statements, included some pictures of a couple, stated that you have been to some of the places, invited yourself to topgun's magificent pool... Are you sure those are facts?

If I tell you that I am a millionaire and send you a picture of a guy in a yatch, would you take that as a fact?

And to end on a high note - I did enjoy reading your posts. It is always interesting to read other people's perspectives and opinions. Have a nice evening! And good luck with your investments.

I knew this was coming :biggrin lol A fact is knowledge or information based on real occurrences. I gave you Pictures, Audio, Email text, and even video... I even explained to you my own personal experiences  and success with the guy... That was the best I could do over the internet.

 Again, it wasn't an easy ride due to my own personal issues, but I worked my  way through it and continue to put $$ in my pocket using his strategies.

Now, is he the only guy out there that can make you successful? Of course not! There are plenty of other Investors/Mentors out there who can help you get to the next level. Essentially, it will all come down to...YOU!

J1dias, if you were a millionaire that sent me a picture of you being on a yacht and I actually built a business relationship with you. On top of that if you answered all my questions week after week and your advice actually put $$ in my pocket on a consistent basis, then honestly I wouldn't have too much ground to  deny that you were phony. I don't know man.

I'm really not going to harp on this much longer because I think I've done enough... Just do your best no matter who you work with and no matter how hard it seems. Work with someone you can relate too and that you feel comfortable with. Then as you become successful, help others to do the same.  :beer

The only reason I took the time to do this was for one simple reason. As TopGun said:

It is only right that people know the truth.

I'm glad you did enjoy reading the posts... :cool

-Lamar
P.S: Any chance I can get to swim in a $117,000 pool would be awesome! :bobble
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Title: Re: Does anyone even know (Mark Evans DM)
Post by: j1dias on June 13, 2008, 07:47:17 am
A fact is knowledge or information based on real occurrences. I gave you Pictures, Audio, Email text, and even video... I even explained to you my own personal experiences  and success with the guy... That was the best I could do over the internet.

Lamar - thank you for not being mad with my comment. You bring up a good point - your evidence is a fact for you because you experienced it, you know the guy personally... I guess my point is that what you call fact may not really be a FACT to others if they haven't had the same experience/don't know the guy... In this case you could have sent pictures of a pair of turists that were spending time in Europe (I don't know Mark Evans to confirm that the picture is from him). Same with the audio and video. The emails (how do I know if he really sent the emails? And even if he did, how do I know if they were true?). Do you understand my point?

I am not minimizing your own experience or even your truthwortiness (I hope I spelled it correctly) - I am only saying that you may feel you have presented facts - my point is that until those "facts" can be corroborated they are not "facts" only opinions...

Hey forget about swiming in the $200,000 pool... You need to get in the person's good side if you want to be invited to their home... And I can tell you - right now it is not looking good... :O)

Have a nice day!
Title: Re: Does anyone even know (Mark Evans DM)
Post by: kdhastedt on June 13, 2008, 10:13:03 am

Wow! Someone fell completely into the Kool-Aid vat...

Keith
Title: Re: Does anyone even know (Mark Evans DM)
Post by: $Cash$ on June 13, 2008, 11:37:42 am
Enough said...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZP1USaPMXpI

John $Cash$ Locke
Title: Re: Does anyone even know (Mark Evans DM)
Post by: wallacehobbs on June 13, 2008, 12:20:51 pm
Enough said...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZP1USaPMXpI

John $Cash$ Locke

LOL - This is a funny Video, I am not nearly as old as John Cashe, and maybe not as old as
Keith, but I sorta remember this comerical as a very young kid.  We never really drank Kooliade
(Sugar Water) because my Mom bought us real fruit juice, but I bet Keith keep them in business, because he speaks of "Drinking the Koolaide" all the time.

Also not to take sides, put I know Mark Evans somewhat, and Yes that was him in the Video, and yeah he travels a lot (But so do I) so that is not a huge deal.  Mark does Wholesaling and from the students of his I have spoke to over the past 5 years, the ones that did the work have done very well.

It seems a lot of people 95% or so love to be negative and point fingers at what someone else is doing...

humm, then 5% remain positive and do the hard work needed to succeed and IF they fail they place the blame on their shoulder, dust themselves off and go back to work.

Never really that about it, but maybe, Just Maybe, this is why 95% of the world, Shares 5% of the worlds wealth, and 5% of the worlds populatioin controls 95% of the worlds wealth.

Oh, Yes this is a Fact - and even Mr. Google agrees with me.

OK, fun time is over, Go do a Deal and enjoy your weekend.

Umm, I am off to NC to my beach house for a couple of weeks
but my cell phone is usually somewhere around if you need anything!   :biggrin
Title: Re: Does anyone even know (Mark Evans DM)
Post by: Lamar on June 13, 2008, 03:04:18 pm
That KoolAid video was HILARIOUS--- "juice box hanging out." lol

Lamar - thank you for not being mad with my comment. You bring up a good point - your evidence is a fact for you because you experienced it, you know the guy personally... I guess my point is that what you call fact may not really be a FACT to others if they haven't had the same experience/don't know the guy... In this case you could have sent pictures of a pair of turists that were spending time in Europe (I don't know Mark Evans to confirm that the picture is from him). Same with the audio and video. The emails (how do I know if he really sent the emails? And even if he did, how do I know if they were true?). Do you understand my point?

j1dias,

      I could never be mad. I completely understand your point. I guess my posts were more for those that have crossed his path and know that the pics/videos/audios, etc were authentic.  The guy said, "hello this is mark evans" in the video for christ's sake. lol

I also referenced his site (markevansdm.com) and I also referenced the dates of the email that I was talking about. Therefore, those who knew him could go to their inbox and see for themselves. He has a facebook page too, just go search for his name "mark evans dm"

This wasn't really for someone that had no clue who he was or what he was about. It was for those who had an idea, but didn't believe it.

It will always be a fact to me, I agree. It should also be facts for those that were skeptic, but I can't speak for them. If you take the time to get to know him and see what he is about then it will surely be a fact for you. Don't take my word for it. See for yourself. I have nothing to prove. If the skeptics still don't believe, then I really have nothing more to say.

Wallace hobbs said it the best:

...this is why 95% of the world, Shares 5% of the worlds wealth, and 5% of the worlds populatioin controls 95% of the worlds wealth.

If you send 2 people to a top REI seminar, one becomes a millionaire from that seminar and the other never does 1 deal.... Is the problem with the Seminar? And I'm willing to bet that the one who didn't make a dime from the seminar will go around and tell people that the seminar was a ripoff. lol That's just the way it is...

If you have something that works for you, then stick with it.

Those posts weren't for everybody, but they were for somebody...People that needed to know the truth.  :cool

Oh and if Topgun is that pissed and I can't go swimming, then so be it. I'll still live another day. I hope he isn't offended as I was just trying to present the truth. This is a discussion forum so I feel is though we were just having a discrussion. No offense to him or anyone else in this forum.

It's not that serious bro! At least to me it isn't... :cool

-Lamar
Title: Re: Does anyone even know (Mark Evans DM)
Post by: d_sbrown on June 13, 2008, 04:34:46 pm
You know, being as it is the internet, I take everything I read with a grain of salt, be it good or bad.

I just hope Lamar didn't get a hernia from all that effort.

 :biggrin

DB
Title: Re: Does anyone even know (Mark Evans DM)
Post by: stripey on June 13, 2008, 08:57:07 pm
I deleted my response deleted because it came across too negative!

It basically said "don't fall for shysters, hopeful newbies." 
Title: Re: Does anyone even know (Mark Evans DM)
Post by: Lamar on June 30, 2008, 10:40:13 pm
I just hope Lamar didn't get a hernia from all that effort.

 :biggrin

DB

I think I almost got Carpal Tunnel. lol

I deleted my response deleted because it came across too negative!

It basically said "don't fall for shysters, hopeful newbies." 

Yeah, I wasn't going to respond to that post stripey, because I didn't want to start an argument of some sort,  :argue but with that said, everyone has a right to their own opinion.  :cool

As I said numerous times, it's best to go with someone you can relate to and someone you are comfortable with. I'm comfortable with Mark Evans DM and I can relate to him, which is why I posted the way I did. However, others may not be comfortable with him and that's ok.

Just find out what works for you and make it happen with that person. It doesn't have to be Mark Evans.

-Lamar :cool

Title: Re: Does anyone even know (Mark Evans DM)
Post by: Dave T on July 01, 2008, 06:59:43 am
I have no opinion one way or the other.  I am just wondering what the DM stands for (Mark Evans DM).  Anyone know?
Title: Re: Does anyone even know (Mark Evans DM)
Post by: kdhastedt on July 01, 2008, 07:08:36 am

"Deal Maker"

http://www.realestateinvestorbookpromo.com/#


Keith
Title: Re: Does anyone even know (Mark Evans DM)
Post by: topgun1928 on July 17, 2008, 09:14:24 am
To Lamar -  WOW you certainly have a lot of time on your hands.

STOP DRINKING THE COOL AID MY FRIEND.

Your rambling posts make my eyes bleed.  Now either you are a star-struck newbie infatuated with Mark Evans OR (and more likely) you ARE mark evans or one of his friends posting an answer to my facts.

Just FYI - in case anyone is wondering about my sources.   The information was gathered using same private research sources used by law enforcement.  These info sources are not free and are not available to the public.    I've been using these same services to track down the owners of vacant abandoned homes for the last 10 years and I will tell you - the information is extremely accurate.  

If I'm wrong - lets have Mark Evans come on and whip open the Kimono with the truth.  Let him answer each point.   The internet is full of people like him.  They go to a seminar - wake up the next day with a messiah complex and "proclaim" themselves gurus and start selling some rehashed real estate course.    

holy "Jim Jones" batman...

Stop drinking the cool aid Lamar.  
Title: Re: Does anyone even know (Mark Evans DM)
Post by: wallacehobbs on July 17, 2008, 12:37:03 pm
To Lamar -  WOW you certainly have a lot of time on your hands.

STOP DRINKING THE COOL AID MY FRIEND.

Your rambling posts make my eyes bleed.  Now either you are a star-struck newbie infatuated with Mark Evans OR (and more likely) you ARE mark evans or one of his friends posting an answer to my facts.

Just FYI - in case anyone is wondering about my sources.   The information was gathered using same private research sources used by law enforcement.  These info sources are not free and are not available to the public.    I've been using these same services to track down the owners of vacant abandoned homes for the last 10 years and I will tell you - the information is extremely accurate.  

If I'm wrong - lets have Mark Evans come on and whip open the Kimono with the truth.  Let him answer each point.   The internet is full of people like him.  They go to a seminar - wake up the next day with a messiah complex and "proclaim" themselves gurus and start selling some rehashed real estate course.    

holy "Jim Jones" batman...

Stop drinking the cool aid Lamar.  

Ok so I read a very Negative Post which is your third one -  1 of only 3 and your e-mail address is hidden.

"May I be so kind as to ask why this is Sir or Madam"
Title: Re: Does anyone even know (Mark Evans DM)
Post by: ryanpal on July 17, 2008, 02:01:46 pm
not to add fuel to the fire here but i will chime in.

i did purchase mark evans book after it was recommended by paul straus from the richdad boards.  i'm glad the money went to charity (i hope it really did).

do i think it's a "must have book"? - no
it's a good story book with some good helpful hints.  it's definitely not a book i would give to newbies as a base looking to get into REI.

moving along i do have to add my input on two points you've made Lamar.

"The book was also a #1 Bestseller on Amazon" - ok "technically" it was.  but did you look at that screenshot closely?  that page is updated every half hour.  i'm not sure how the ordering process with amazon works, but could it be possible that they submitted all their orders at once to obtain #1 status for that short duration?  i think this advertising was a bit misleading.

"Farm emails??  I doubt that... lol However, If you go to someone's website and subscribe then you will surely recieve something from them via email" -i believe my email was taken from this site as well.  i never signed up for his email list. one day i received some emails from him.  that's actually how i found out about mark evans. 

i'm not blasting mark evans here. i felt those two issues should be made clear.

Title: Re: Does anyone even know (Mark Evans DM)
Post by: Lamar on July 17, 2008, 11:57:55 pm
As always everyone has a right to their opinion however I had to chime in hopefully one last time.

I mentioned it was a #1 Best Seller because that is exactly what is was for a duration of days, not minutes. I got the book when it first came out and it was in the #1 spot for a while. On top of that, in order to be a #1 seller I'm certain you'd have to have a significant amount of sells, regardless of the timeframe. It's called #1 Best Seller, not #1 Best Seller in a given time period. There are hundreds of best sellers all over the internet. It goes by sells not time. However More time can equal more sells!

Also, if you say you went through Paul to get the book, once you purchased the book, you were on Mark's list. You subscribed to get the book, right? Now if you got emails before then and you never went to any of his sites, then I can't speak on that. I just have a pretty good idea of how he operates and when he taught us to build our list, he never mentioned "farming emails" and if he did teach that, he would not be my Mentor!

Hope that helps.

Every body has their own opinion on the book. I though it was awesome, but I agree it shouldn't be a sole base for new investors to get into rei. However, it brings value to the table!

-Lamar
Title: Re: Does anyone even know (Mark Evans DM)
Post by: ryanpal on July 18, 2008, 01:50:49 pm

Also, if you say you went through Paul to get the book, once you purchased the book, you were on Mark's list. You subscribed to get the book, right? Now if you got emails before then and you never went to any of his sites, then I can't speak on that. I just have a pretty good idea of how he operates and when he taught us to build our list, he never mentioned "farming emails" and if he did teach that, he would not be my Mentor!


to clarify.  i received emails before purchasing the book.  it was after paul was advertising that i decided to give it a "go".

that aside.  if mark evans is running an honest business and his students are doing deals i wish him (and them) the best of luck.

Title: Re: Does anyone even know (Mark Evans DM)
Post by: j1dias on July 18, 2008, 05:21:28 pm
i received emails before purchasing the book.  it was after paul was advertising that i decided to give it a "go".

I am not trying to put more fire in this... But it seems that at least in your case, Paul's strategy worked... he sent you an unsolicited email and you ended up buying his product... :O)

I am curious though if knowing what you know now, would you have bought the book?

Thank you. Have a nice evening!
Title: Re: Does anyone even know (Mark Evans DM)
Post by: Lamar on July 19, 2008, 06:51:56 am
I am not trying to put more fire in this... But it seems that at least in your case, Paul's strategy worked... he sent you an unsolicited email and you ended up buying his product... :O)

It wasn't Paul's product, it was Marks. If I understand it correctly, ryanpal was on Paul's list and Paul is the one who advertised Mark's book to ryanpal.

[quote author=ryanpal link=topic=14426.msg179795#msg179795

to clarify.  i received emails before purchasing the book.  it was after paul was advertising that i decided to give it a "go".
[/quote]

Ryanpal, if this happens again, then I suggest you scroll down to the bottom of the email and unsubscribe yourself and if it still continues after that, then make a complaint to Mark's Helpdesk. I can't vouch for him, but I know he isn't the only one working his biz.
Title: Re: Does anyone even know (Mark Evans DM)
Post by: ryanpal on July 21, 2008, 10:13:13 am
good morning fellas.

i shouldn't say that Paul advertised to me.  he had the book link advertised in his signature over on the richdad boards.  he posts alot over there and i decided it was for a good cause so i decided to put out the $16 or whatever it was at the time. 

the email i received wasn't from paul, but from mark evans company. my guess is it was obtained from this or another rei forum that i'm a member of

j1dias,
i'm not upset that i bought the book. would i still buy it knowing what i know now? no i wouldn't.  i can read plenty of "stories" online for free.
Title: Re: Does anyone even know (Mark Evans DM)
Post by: devans90 on July 22, 2008, 11:20:10 pm
DON'T WASTE YOUR MONEY!!   MARK EVANS KNOWS NOTHING ABOUT REAL ESTATE.  HE IS A WANNA BE INTERNET INFO MARKETER SLINGING WHATEVER WILL SELL ONLINE.   I did my due diligence.  Here is an email another investor sent me on him:

>>>>After doing about 15 minutes of "research" - here is what I found...
 
Mark's latest "memorial day 2008" email supposedly sent from Florence Italy (Mark has been traveling the world for the last 2.5 years you know?)   is a COMPLETE LIE.   

In the email - he wishes his Mother Happy Birthday from Italy but my research found that his Mother's birthday was NOT May 26.   His Mother's name is Beverly and her birthday is 11/14/1951.
 
Mark S. Evans is a 29 year old kid still wet behind the ears - born June 19, 1978.   His last known address is:
 
51 Community Dr.
Kirkersville, OH  43033
740-927-1683
 
Which is a 3/1 - 1,764 sf home worth $117,000  (My pool is worth more than this house).
 
The home is owned by a "Bennie Evans Jr. and Beverly Evans" - 59 and 56 yrs old respectively and right around the age of what could be Mark's parents?  I can't  be sure but I would bet they are his parents.
 
DOES THIS MEAN WORLD TRAVELING MARK EVANS - THE INTERNET REAL ESTATE GURU - STILL LIVES WITH HIS PARENTS??
 
Maybe or maybe not. 
 
Other than the 4701 Olentangy River Rd., Columbus, OH address - which appears to be a commercial office - the next residential address for "Mr. Evans" is:
 
209 S. High St., # 311
Columbus, OH
 
Which appears to be residential apartments over walkup retail.     
 
So maybe "World Traveling Mr. Evans" still lives in a crackerbox apartment?

It is hard to tell where he lives because Mark Evans uses rent-a-mailbox type outlets like UPS Store etc. as the main OFFICE address for all of his businesses.
 
"Mr. Evans"  apparently has started at least one company - "Strategic Home Buyers LLC" yet a quick search of Franklin and Licking County Ohio official records and tax assessor sites shows no records for a Strategic Home Buyers or Mark Evans EVER owning real estate.
 
Now to give "Mr. Evans" the benefit of the doubt - he could be buying properties in a Land Trust which would give him some anonymity - which would be very smart on his part.
 
Or - and what I think is more plausible - is "Mr. Evans" is a wanna-be wholesaler who feeds off the scraps of true real estate investors by earning pennies through contract assignments - which obviously would only appear on a HUD and not of record.

This guy is yet another scammer in a long line of failed real estate investors who can't seem to make money doing deals so they vomit their limited knowledge into a "Real Estate Course" and sell it to unsuspecting people online.

I wouldn't waste a penny on this guy. 


all right hahahah i found this funny. mark is my cousin, so i can clear any questions about this right up.

for one: beverly evans is my aunt, married to jim evans my uncle. that would make them both marks aunt and uncle.  they do live at 51 community dr. i am at 71 community dr right now.

i saw mark on saturday for his sisters baby shower. he is currently driving an $80,000 mercedes g-wagon. he also recently bought a house and his neighbor is deangelo hall.

hes no joke. i lived with him for 32 days while he had his $11,500 condo in times square. you can see pictures of me with him at www.deenaandmark.com
   just go to the second link that says new york, new york

oh and the olentangy rd address is a ups po box

and sandy is his mothers name, not beverly (thats his aunt)

i think you need to find a new way of investigating people...
Title: Re: Does anyone even know (Mark Evans DM)
Post by: kdhastedt on July 23, 2008, 09:44:12 am

David,

Please re-read the Forum Rules, to wit Rule #1:

**No Profanity or Name Calling - if you disagree, that's fine, but do so in a professional manner. This includes private messages and emails.

Don't make me break out the "Scooter"


Keith
Moderator
Title: Re: Does anyone even know (Mark Evans DM)
Post by: wallacehobbs on July 23, 2008, 06:00:24 pm

Don't make me break out the "Scooter"

Keith
Moderator

Whats a Scooter Keith   :huh
Title: Re: Does anyone even know (Mark Evans DM)
Post by: Lamar on July 25, 2008, 12:11:54 am
To Lamar -  WOW you certainly have a lot of time on your hands.

STOP DRINKING THE COOL AID MY FRIEND.

Your rambling posts make my eyes bleed.  Now either you are a star-struck newbie infatuated with Mark Evans OR (and more likely) you ARE mark evans or one of his friends posting an answer to my facts.

Just FYI - in case anyone is wondering about my sources.   The information was gathered using same private research sources used by law enforcement.  These info sources are not free and are not available to the public.    I've been using these same services to track down the owners of vacant abandoned homes for the last 10 years and I will tell you - the information is extremely accurate.  

If I'm wrong - lets have Mark Evans come on and whip open the Kimono with the truth.  Let him answer each point.   The internet is full of people like him.  They go to a seminar - wake up the next day with a messiah complex and "proclaim" themselves gurus and start selling some rehashed real estate course.    

holy "Jim Jones" batman...

Stop drinking the cool aid Lamar.  

I have no clue how I missed this one, but I have to respond. lol 

First of all topgun, I'm no star struck newbie. Now I won't proclaim to be a guru or even a real estate expert, but I do have experience in Real Estate Investing & Internet Marketing. With that said, I really have no reason to pump my resume to you.

Also, I am in no way shape or form,  "infatuated" with Mark Evans. I don't roll like that. However, I do admire his ability to reach out and help others become successful and to teach them to do the same.

I'm one of Mark Evan's students, have been for 2 years,  and I'm speaking from experience. I seriously doubt Mark Evans would even waste his time and come on here to clarify anything and even if he did, it still wouldn't make a difference. People will be skeptical one way or another. The fact is that those aren't the people he is looking to help.

 I presented a lot of information to prove a point and still it won't stick through to some people. People will have a different perception on something, no matter what it is. Example: I see the cup half full, you see the cup half empty.

 I'm sure I'm wasting my time responding now, but I couldn't help it. The bottom line is that your investigating sources may be accurate, but it was waaaaay off in this case. Sorry to tell you, but everything you said just seems to spawn from whatever pain you dealt with or are dealing with on subjects you don't seem to fully understand. (I'm referring more to Internet Marketing, not real estate) Also, I'd like you to show me a course like Mark Evans wrote. As I have read many courses and haven't seen anything like it yet.

But whatever man, It's really not that serious! I mean, even his cousin came on! What more do you want.

If you're doing investigations like this, then I'm afraid of Law Enforcement in your area.

Just kick back, relax,  and join me for some nice RED Kool AID  :beer (http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:23CfpKC1GY_87M:http://images1.wikia.nocookie)
Title: Re: Does anyone even know (Mark Evans DM)
Post by: kdhastedt on July 25, 2008, 08:23:59 am

Don't make me break out the "Scooter"

Keith
Moderator

Whats a Scooter Keith   :huh

When someone intentionally misbehaves after they have been asked to stop, they get called "Scooter"...it's like a term of endearment, only different (see "Ron White" video at the 1:45 point)  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJDr294Z00o
Title: Re: Does anyone even know (Mark Evans DM)
Post by: b18bgone on July 28, 2008, 10:58:32 pm
Im just dropping in here, but is this the guy I see marketed on craigslist
all the time?  Starts off with one guys name, John/Justin Blunt standing on
the beach or something and when you enter your info you get an email from
another guy entirely, I think the Mark guy mentioned here.

Of course I couldnt find a link when I needed one, but just wondering.
Title: Re: Does anyone even know (Mark Evans DM)
Post by: Lamar on July 29, 2008, 11:49:09 pm
I think you mean jeremy blunt.

He is also one of mark's students and posts on craigslist all the time. The reason you saw Mark was probably because when you subscribed to Jeremy's site, you were given a free course. This is Mark's sub 2 course. It's a really good course. I send it to investors who join my site too.

Information Marketing at it's best!
Title: Re: Does anyone even know (Mark Evans DM)
Post by: topgun1928 on August 08, 2008, 02:11:09 pm

all right hahahah i found this funny. mark is my cousin, so i can clear any questions about this right up.

for one: beverly evans is my aunt, married to jim evans my uncle. that would make them both marks aunt and uncle.  they do live at 51 community dr. i am at 71 community dr right now.

i saw mark on saturday for his sisters baby shower. he is currently driving an $80,000 mercedes g-wagon. he also recently bought a house and his neighbor is deangelo hall.

hes no joke. i lived with him for 32 days while he had his $11,500 condo in times square. you can see pictures of me with him at www.deenaandmark.com
   just go to the second link that says new york, new york




OK I went to the site and checked out the picture you mention.  You look rather young?   Is this REALLY a picture of you?   According to my sources - YOU are 53 years old.   


DAVID T EVANS
DAVID TIMOTHY EVANS
DAVID EVANS
Gender - Male
   6/15/1955
(Age: 53)
    5776 ALLENBY CT APT B
GALLOWAY OH 43119-9261

Jul 91 - Mar 2008   614-465-2822 - EDT - Active


WWW.DAVIDTEVANS.COM
 
Administrative Contact:
Evans, David [email protected]
5776 Allenby Ct.
Galloway, Ohio 43119
United States
              (614) 922-9077       




Title: Re: Does anyone even know (Mark Evans DM)
Post by: william999 on September 14, 2008, 03:20:41 pm
Save your money! It's just a fancy name with a high price tag on how to do lease options. Also save your money if you are considering going to "The Ultimate Real Estate Lifesyle Experience"
presented by Mark Evans and Ed Zimdardi. It is a pitch for a $25,000 mentoring program. Its' your average bait and switch. It was advertised as a three day event to help you get your real estate business up and running. However the end result was: if you pay us $25,000 we will help you.

On a positive note by visiting the homes of Mark Evans and Ed Zimbardi it did give you a visual about what is possible when you apply yourself.
Title: Re: Does anyone even know (Mark Evans DM)
Post by: Lamar on September 18, 2008, 12:52:25 am
So basically you're saying that we should steer clear of people that are Succesful??  :bs

I bought Mark's reverse course and I made double my investment back. Did I think it had a high price tag? Sure it did! But did I see the true value and the true potential of the product to not only make my investment back, but to keep implementing what I learned and do it over and over again. You figure if it cost $900 bucks and I doubled that on my first deal...$1800 bucks, then I kept implementing and doing it over and over, $1800, $2500, $3500, 1750, etc.... I think the course pays for itself BIG TIME!.

You see my point.

Its not always about the price tag. Its about the value and about your ability to expose that value and take it to its highest potential.

I'm not a salesman for Mark Evans, but I call it how I see it. Whether you pay $25,000, $2500, $250, or $25, the real question is in the Value of the program, not the price tag.

Then the question is how will you leverage that value and make back your investment.

I'll admit $25,000 is a pretty hefty price to pay. But the true question is how much is it worth for you to change your life.

How much do you personally think you should have to spend?

Do You Trust the person who is training you?

Are they making more money than you and are they successful with their business?

Can You Truly acheive the same results If You paid less?

If so, How fast can you achieve those results?

If you pay something like $25K, can you double that with the knowledge you have gained or should I say will gain?

William You said something really Key. "Apply Yourself"

You're absolutely right about that. Thats what alot of investors don't do. Or they do it a little bit.

You evaluate the program or the product, you decide if its worth your time, effort and investment, if so, then you "Apply Yourself".

You didn't mention that the course also includes weekly mentoring for a year. (or it least is was that long when I got it) Each week you come together and ask questions about the course, if you didn't understand something, if you have questions, concerns,  and you also get to ask questions about current deals you are working on. Not only that the course focuses on the most important part of your business....Marketing!

Not too many mentors will support their product like that.

I like to present the Facts! Anyone reading this may be a bit skeptical and they'll have to make an informed decision on their own. I'm just keeping it real.

Are People Insane if they pay $25K for training?

Maybe?

Maybe Not...

It all depends on that individual. If they come in and make nothing, because they didn't do anything, then they are Absolutely Insane.

But if they did everyting that was required and then some and made $50K, then that was the smarest investment ever!

Think about all the testimonials you see all over the internet. Those testimonials are from people that made it happen! I use to think they were fake. lol Then I stopped hating on people and started doing what I needed to do and I became a tesimonial! Some people will be successful at the biz and some won't. The question people need to ask is, "What Side of the Fence will I be on?"

To me, Massive Action+ Specialized Knowledge+ Massive Value= True Success

Take it for what its worth.
Title: Re: Does anyone even know (Mark Evans DM)
Post by: ryanpal on September 18, 2008, 06:26:38 pm

It all depends on that individual. If they come in and make nothing, because they didn't do anything, then they are Absolutely Insane.

But if they did everyting that was required and then some and made $50K, then that was the smarest investment ever!

what if they "did everything that was required and then some and made" $0?  what would it be?  :biggrin
Title: Re: Does anyone even know (Mark Evans DM)
Post by: Lamar on September 19, 2008, 06:51:34 am
I knew someone would ask that question. LOL I meant to address it.

OK, if someone truly did "everything" they were supposed to do and recieved $0, then they need to take that up with the person who gave them the product or trained them. They need to ask Questions. By doing so, they may realized that they haven't done everything, or they may have realized that taking shortcuts on this or that.

Above all else, if they still can't suceed and they are doing everything they are told, then they should simply request a refund, if there was a money back guarntee.

But what if there is no money back guarantee, Lamar?

Then you simply got burned...  :banghead Sorry to say... However, that is why you have to have good judgement and be able to identify the authentic and genuine investors from the shammers and scammers! Build a rapport, look at the value they give you, and then make your decision. I can't tell you how to decide.

Investing in your education is like investing in a home. They're will always be risks involved. With Control comes less risk. By doing your DUE Dilligence whether it be to invest in a home or invest in your education, you'll be able to make a decision whether to move forward or not.

Read the Fine print! :deal
Title: Re: Does anyone even know (Mark Evans DM)
Post by: camilleb on September 25, 2008, 06:44:37 pm
The title itself sounds like a rip-off of a popular IM course guide.. very funny.
Title: Re: Does anyone even know (Mark Evans DM)
Post by: bugmenot on October 22, 2008, 03:06:08 pm
I've personally met the man. Not a genius, actually has a real ego problem.
It doesn't surprise me that he gets angry and black balls people who request a refund. The truth is hard to handle probably, especially when people point out that his system is "slapped together." Because its true.
His marketing strategies are what made him millions; "Mark Evans DM", whats with that? the "DM" I mean... "Dungeon Master"??
Actually, its more likely a subliminal marketing tool to make him look like a  "MD". Which is just a self given title to a self righteous person.
Here's the thing... he's certainly self educated when it comes to REI, however he doesn't seem to be making $$ from RE.
He's making money from these CD's, seminars, etc.
Honestly, his time will be limited in this market, his business models aren't sustainable (especially when enough people start talking in forums like this one!)
Just my two cents.
Save your money and work smarter, and you will do well in life.
Title: Re: Does anyone even know (Mark Evans DM)
Post by: kdhastedt on October 22, 2008, 03:33:59 pm

His website says that it means "Deal Maker" (this was covered earlier in this thread).

Personally, I use "DMA" afer my name..."Doesn't Mean Anything"

Keith
Title: Re: Does anyone even know (Mark Evans DM)
Post by: DMC on October 22, 2008, 04:35:10 pm
I actually just downloaded his book today. Didn't read anything yet.   I didn't buy his stuff because I have other contracs from other courses. But is all this dealing happening in ohio. Is there anything in NJ ?
DMC
Title: Re: Does anyone even know (Mark Evans DM)
Post by: Lamar on November 18, 2008, 11:21:50 pm
I didn't catch that in the thread... I got tired after reading the 10th post by Lamar DM Jr.
He'll adamantly deny it, but who would take it so personally as to waste hours/days talking about someone else's product(s) on a forum -- unless you were being paid to do so.
His uber-involvement is fairly suspicious to say the least.

Holy Crap did I miss this one. LOL

Lamar DM Jr. That was a good one.  :rolleyes

I actually "wasted" all that time writing about someone else's product because it was being slandered by people who didn't even try it, or didn't use it to its full potential. How can one see results and another can't? The answer is simple... Implementation

If you don't take action the way you need to take it, then you will  :flush

Also, this is a discussion forum where discussions occur. Was I paid to post all that. Give me a break! The fact that you didn't read it in its entirety lets me know that you couldn't even give yourself the respect of reading it objectively. You already had your mind made up, therefore wasting your time, and then further trying to give your 2 cents on a person you obviously don't know too much about.

I already knew no matter how much proof I provided, given this is the internet, that there would still be skeptics/critics. Therefore, I went in this with the mindframe of giving people the truth and educating them on someone who I've been personally Mentored by for the past 2yrs.

Getting paid to post a discussion...HAHA!  :bs

Nothing I say in this thread will matter any more. Only to those who get it!

 :beer

It's really not that serious... Go do a deal!
Title: Re: Does anyone even know (Mark Evans DM)
Post by: devans90 on July 20, 2009, 04:25:31 am

all right hahahah i found this funny. mark is my cousin, so i can clear any questions about this right up.

for one: beverly evans is my aunt, married to jim evans my uncle. that would make them both marks aunt and uncle.  they do live at 51 community dr. i am at 71 community dr right now.

i saw mark on saturday for his sisters baby shower. he is currently driving an $80,000 mercedes g-wagon. he also recently bought a house and his neighbor is deangelo hall.

hes no joke. i lived with him for 32 days while he had his $11,500 condo in times square. you can see pictures of me with him at www.deenaandmark.com
   just go to the second link that says new york, new york




OK I went to the site and checked out the picture you mention.  You look rather young?   Is this REALLY a picture of you?   According to my sources - YOU are 53 years old.   


DAVID T EVANS
DAVID TIMOTHY EVANS
DAVID EVANS
Gender - Male
   6/15/1955
(Age: 53)
    5776 ALLENBY CT APT B
GALLOWAY OH 43119-9261

Jul 91 - Mar 2008   614-465-2822 - EDT - Active


WWW.DAVIDTEVANS.COM
 
Administrative Contact:
Evans, David [email protected]
5776 Allenby Ct.
Galloway, Ohio 43119
United States
              (614) 922-9077       






oh im sorry that this has taken awhile to respond. i am now in the marine corps but for fun i thought about checking out these forums because its funny that people doubt mark evans.

okay to clear things up. my father is david timothy evans sr. he at the time of your post was 53. I am david timothy evans II and i am pictured on the website where you can see mark and deena in new york.

i personally worked for him for the summer between my junior and senior year in high school and i have obviously known him all my life.

my family is a very large family and most of us are not wealthy by any means. most of my family works at blue collar jobs and a lot of my family has served in the military at one point. mark is the only person in my family who has taken a risk to become great at what he does and is very successful for it.

mark is very good with real estate. he networks non stop and meets people everywhere he goes.

he knows what he is doing and his students benefit from what he teaches.

but the background checks that people have done on him are close, but not accurate. the community drive address is his aunt and uncles house. on that same street his cousins live in a separate house, and his aunt lives in another house. we have 4 different family members living on that one street. that town is so small that it is considered a village. and jim evans who lives at 51 community drive was the mayor of kirkersville for a few years. kirkersville is very small, it is considered a village.

marks parents live about 15 minutes from kirkersville in another small country town called baltimore, ohio. that is where he is from and he has changed his life greatly since then if you ever visit that place.

the evans family in ohio is very large. me and mark are in the same generation in our family despite the age difference. our parents come from 8 brothers and sisters. it is a large family so i can understand your sources being wrong from your little background investigation.
Title: Re: Does anyone even know (Mark Evans DM)
Post by: fordpilot on September 27, 2009, 10:28:44 am
I have had very good luck with Mark Evans DM!  I have found the people that bad mouth other people didn"t follow directions! They don't take action! Mark is a solid person I like him alot!
Altered due to a rules violation  (one of those people that didn't follow directions)
Ed
Title: Re: Does anyone even know (Mark Evans DM)
Post by: fordpilot on September 27, 2009, 10:45:11 am
hey this topgun guy is spreading false info! I know the guy and He is a good guy! I have been to his 4 million $ house! His reverse system is not a hard read, but it does work! He has alot of good stuff!
Title: Re: Does anyone even know (Mark Evans DM)
Post by: laq12 on December 05, 2011, 01:40:18 pm
Don't waste your money on any courses by Mark Evans "DM".  The only deal he is involved in is stealing your money.  I paid $5000 for mentoring and real estate info and got nothing!!!!  This is a definite scam and I want it known that I will go all over the internet with this review to stop the stealing of innocent people's money..
Title: Re: Does anyone even know (Mark Evans DM)
Post by: Mdhaas on December 06, 2011, 08:49:06 am
laq12, what did they do or not do that has made you so upset?
Title: Re: Does anyone even know (Mark Evans DM)
Post by: Hiltonheadremodelers on March 21, 2012, 12:54:21 am
The answer to alot of the replys on here is simple.
Yes Mark Evans DM is real
Yes he travels the world
Yes He is a real estate genius

Ok....So How do I know all this

I am one of the many Remodeling company owners that does work for mark on a regular basis!

I speak directly with Mark weekly as well as meet with his partners on a regular basis

Has mark made me rich? NO but he is not afraid to invest his money in a company as small as mine to ensure his investments are well taken care of

I by no means could tell you if the system he sells actually works, I work on real estate I do not sell it

However yes rumors are true...Mark is a real estate genius He has never stepped foot into any buildings I work on but has the time in his buisy schedule to overlook every step of the way with the work I do

How do I know he travels the world? Mark only can meet with me when it is his time over there I recieve emails from Mark all through the night so one of two things is happening either mark is nocturnal (bad for buisness) or he really is in another country I am guessing that Mark is not nocturnal Feel free to reply to this if you like I do not work for Mark Evans DM Mark is MY customer so I can assure you that he is very real and also very smart at what he does

I am not trying to sell his product in any way shape or form but would I like to make the money he does, that goes without question...I do not know if the method he uses is the same as the product he sells but if it is Then yes I would buy this

Thank you for reading

J.L. Danko
Hilton Head Remodelers
Title: Re: Does anyone even know (Mark Evans DM)
Post by: john1234 on March 21, 2012, 02:01:06 am
cleo you never left your house and you assigned a contract...
Title: Re: Does anyone even know (Mark Evans DM)
Post by: john1234 on March 21, 2012, 02:02:33 am
22,000 views impressive
Title: Re: Does anyone even know (Mark Evans DM)
Post by: motivatedceo on March 21, 2012, 07:09:13 am
Here are a couple of interesting links on this subject:

http://www.ripoffreport.com/adult-career-continuing-education/mark-evans-dm/mark-evans-dm-i-applied-for-a-c7070.htm

http://www.ripoffreport.com/websites/mark-evans-dm/mark-evans-dm-multiple-credit-53a2a.htm